Received digits on BCM 1

[CK29]

Will be replacing old BCM soon and have a question on a technical issue.

The main number is currently analog and I want to port it to their existing PRI. The number is 425-291-9700.

The current circuit is sending 4 digits.

The existing DID’s are 425-291-4920 thru 4959

Porting 9700 will interfere with dial "9" out, correct? Is the only option to change circuit to send 5 digits? branch will not agree on dial 8 out after all these years. Suggestions appreciated.

 

[56BelAir]

Have telco port the number to an existing DID range,the receptionist DID( for example), this will free up 9.

 

[Deweyhumbolt]

Your screwed at 3 or 4 digits. This is a taste issue, not a right or wrong, but I would have them send 5 digits, and change Call Park. I like to see my DNIS digits in BCM Monitor, and your going to see the DID DNIS, not your Main # DNIS.

Again, matter of taste. You control or Telco controls?

Adversity is Opportunity

 

[stevethephoneman]

Are you doing this to free up a MBM?


Will you have an analog as a backup, at least to get calls in, if you change this?

 

[CK29]

No analog backup. Doing this so i dont have to buy an expansion cabinet. I have 2 DTM's and 1 ASM and 1 32DSM. Maybe i need to rethink this and use ATA's for analog instead.

 

[danthephoneman]

Why not port the number and have your provider send 4 digits and convert the leading digit. Most providers will do this depending on the type of circuit.

I have found that Qwest and Lightpath will not do this because of the type IAD they use.

 

[CK29]

LOL, got Qwest of course! Okay, how about if i tell qwest to send 7 digits. I think i am safe then??

 

[acewarlock]

I had Qwest and 60 BCM's that every time I changed to DID they just ported the COT to the Main DID starting DN and I term it on the Recpt phone, never had a problem. Just make sure you get enough call paths to handel the number of calls you would normally get. Each call path can only handel 1 call. some Telco's charge for any more the 5 free one's and some don't charge for any of them. A call path is not a trunk, but a digital connection to your PRI DID group.
So you would have 8 calls at one time on your old COT, you would need 8 call Paths. Some Telcos may call it something else, but just tell them you want to be able to get X number of calls to the old COT at one time. This is the only problem I have had when we forgot to get the extra call paths.




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Why change the engine if all you need is to change the spark plugs.

 

[bluemr2]

You don't need to do all this. Delete the 9 access code. Then create a dest. code 9A. This will give you all wildcards but 7. (9 700). Then do a 97A dest code. This will give you all wildcards but 0 (97 00). Then do a 970A dest. code. This will allow you to route all outbound calls but a 9700 number, but thats not an issue since you would need to dial 91700 anyway.

 

[acewarlock]

That seems like alot of programming for no reason, when the Telco does it for basically free. plus this looks like a newbie.




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This is an Analogy so don't take it personally as some have.

Why change the engine if all you need is to change the spark plugs.

 

[bluemr2]

Forgot a step. After you delete the 9 access code, create a target line with DNIS 9700. Also, send all dest. codes to the PRI route and absorb 1 digit.

 

[bluemr2]

I don't know what telcos you deal with, but here in maryland its far faster to change 5 minutes worth of programming, then to get the telco to change anything.

 

[Deweyhumbolt]

Thanks for that info blue, I never messed with wildcards much. Now, I see the advantage. We agree on one point, don't involve Telco, unless a gun is to your head.

Adversity is Opportunity

 

[Deweyhumbolt]

Forgot to add, extra paths are expensive per month, why not receive DNIS and have 23 free paths.

Adversity is Opportunity

 

[56BelAir]

Why not just do as I posted since your going to have to open a ticket with telco anyway to port the number, just tell them to port it to the receptionist DID? its Done.

 

[stevethephoneman]

CK29,

ATA's are for Analog Station ports NOT Analog POTS Lines.


I concur with the MVP's make sure your Provider will give you multiple call paths at no charge from your old main number to your lead DID.

I was messed up by AT&T on one job with that.

 

[acewarlock]

I don't understand why anyone would want to do all that programming, especially trying to get a Newbie to follow all the things you want him to do, just do like 56BelAir and I said to do. I have never had a problem getting the Telco to make this simple change, this is what they do.




This is a Signature and not part of the answer, it appears on every reply.

This is an Analogy so don't take it personally as some have.

Why change the engine if all you need is to change the spark plugs.

 

[Deweyhumbolt]

The issue is what is the cleanest. Paths are limiting, and cost $ per Path per month. In SoCal it was at least $3.00 a month per Path. So, instead of limited to 8 simultaneous calls and pay $24.00 a month. Pay nothing and get 23 simultaneous calls.

Adversity is Opportunity

 

[CK29]

Didnt know i was going to start such a ruccus
I dont see a need to pay for paths when this somehow can be worked out. My easiest idea at this point since I need to order a port anyway is go with 7 digit received digits, then i should have no problem with 9,s or 1,s or destination code programming. i should still be able to have my 4 digit extension length. no user cares about received length or if the telco says they will point to a DID with no charge even better. I doubt it.

 

[nrsman]

wow

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