Purpose of standards, it there an ulterior motive? 7

[1DMF]

I've been taking part in a forum relating to Matt Cutts from Goolge announcing that G might be addin code validation to google WMT.

It started the usual debate over valid code having nothing to do with SERPs. should or shouldn't G do this and are they already doing this when crawling a site.

I made the point that valid code and SERP's have to go hand in hand , you won't get far in google without a TITLE tag and your page won't validate either, so to me there seems at a basic level a corrolation to valid code and SERPs , but I got the following response to that train of thought...

Of course I accept that the title tag is important! The reason that not having one is a massive problem is not that the W3C's validator doesn't think you're a good coder; it's that you have left out the best way of quickly telling a search engine (And the user!) what the page is about.

So the question is as per the subject, are some of the standards based purely on search engine requirements?

is the only reason the title tag is required is because Google likes it, not because it is part of semantics and accessibility and cross browsers compatability.

Can this statement really be true, that some semantics / standards possed as the right thing to do is a mere smoke screen for helping multi-billion dollar companies such as Google or Yahoo.

But then again if so that also proves a corrolation between Standards / Validation and SE's doesn't it?

Does W3C even care if you get in an SE or not.

Not all code is for public domain , it could be a members only or intranet site etc.. surely W3C just care if your code is valid not if it gets high SERPs.

Other peoples opinion on this is much appreciated.

full forum thread can be viewed here...

http://www.highrankings.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=31332&st=0

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[Foamcow]

And confusing cause and effect again.

Visitors != links

There seems to be a propensity to take a perfectly straightforward fact, bolt a supposition onto it and claim this is also a fact. Stop and think.

Because the egg I ate at breakfast was brown does not mean that all eggs are brown.

Likewise, just because a site has 100 visitors a second does not mean it will get even 1 link a week. It might, but it's not fact it's supposition. Therefore, it does not follow that visits = better ranking.


1DMF I really admire the way you have grasped the bull by the horns and learned so much over the last 12 months. Kudos to you for that. But you need to stop seeing connections and reasons where there are none. You are trying waaaaay too hard to find reasons for everything and falling wide of the mark more often than not.

Sorry for saying that, I hope you know I don't mean to offend.

Maybe I'm just tetchy because we still don't have running water here and probably won't for at least another week.

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Mike: You can't drink a pint of Bovril.

 

[1DMF]

Sorry for saying that, I hope you know I don't mean to offend. - Maybe I'm just tetchy because we still don't have running water here and probably won't for at least another week.

Hey it's cool, I need a good clip round the ear now and again, my biggest problem at school was no different, and got me into a lot of trouble.

I forever kept saying, 'yeah but why' , or 'so if that = that then this = this' NO!!!!!! , 'yeah but why' - lol

And still do, and to be fair alot fo the time the reaction was purely because the teacher didn't have an anser, not that I was deliberatly trying to make an argument, I just like to know, understand, and sometimes get frustrated with myself (as well as frustrating other) when I can't fully grasp something, or realy understand it.

You know I respect you and the other here and on the other forum, I admire you lot more I can assure you, and am pleased you have seen the progress I have made.

Makes it all worth while.

Jeez no running water, man you must STINK!!

"In complete darkness we are all the same, only our knowledge and wisdom separates us, don't let your eyes deceive you."

"If a shortcut was meant to be easy, it wouldn't be a shortcut, it would be the way!

 

[ChrisHirst]

Maybe I'm just tetchy because we still don't have running water here

So that could be why your was brown!

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Hey Pete,
I was down your way yesterday in the (still) pouring rain
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Chris.

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So long, and thanks for all the fish.

 

[Foamcow]

I have been washing in rain water brrrr!.
Wakes me up in the morning anyway lol.

<honk>*:O)</honk>

Tyres: Mine's a pint of the black stuff.
Mike: You can't drink a pint of Bovril.