Proper jumper settings ???

[skinzz]

Quick question..
I have 3 hdd, 1 is a SAMSUNG SATA 120G, the other 2 are MAXTOR ATA133 20G each.
The SATA will be considered the master, and the other 2 will be jumped as slaves along with the 2 cdr's, correct?
If not, please tell me of another way.
Thanks in advance.

ASUS-P4P8X
P4-2.8ghz
512 DDR
GeFORCE Ti4200

 

[jsauce]

How many controllers do you have? Two devices per controller, a master and a slave. You have 5 devices listed.

John D. Saucier
jsauce@magicguild.com
Certified Technician
Network Administrator

 

[pmonett]

I think you have misunderstood SATA. A SATA disk is on its own bus, therefor it is master of its bus (although, curiously, my 2-HDD SATA setup has the second SATA disk as slave, or my PC does not boot).
In any case, the setting of the SATA disk has nothing to do with the settings on the IDE bus. That means that you should have 1 HDD as master and one optical unit as slave on each IDE bus.
If you want to have both IDE disks on one cable, of course one will be master and the other slave.
But that has nothing to do with the SATA disk.

Pascal.

 

[skinzz]

Almost there....
SATA-MASTER
Primary IDE--2 ATA (1 MASTER THE OTHER SLAVE)
Secondary IDE--(CDR'S) BOTH slave
OR
Primary--1 ATA, 1 CDR
Secondary--1 ATA, 1CDR
OR
????

Thanks again.

 

[pweegar]

Leave the Sata drive alone. As mentioned, it is a MASTER, all by itself. Your 2 IDE channels MUST be set up as:
1 Master, 1 Slave (make the fastest device the master)

You can put both hd on one channel and the opticals on the other channel or 1 hd and one optical. As long as you have 1 MASTER and 1 SLAVE PER channel. Again, always make the fastest drive the MASTER (And connect it to the END of the IDE cable, the slower, SLAVE drive goes on the middle connector).

 

[skinzz]

Thank you for the clearing this up. I was never sure if there was a proper way of setting up the IDE.
Due to the placement of hd and opticals in my case I will have to go both hd on Primary and both opticals on secondary. This will not effect performance in any way, correct?

 

[pmonett]

Well, if you're looking for benchmark bragging rights, it probably will since both HDDs will be fighting for the same cable bandwidth.
But if you just want to work normally (not video editing), then you shouldn't even notice.

Pascal.

 

[skinzz]

Thank you for the advice and the time to explain.
I'm goin in....

 

[skinzz]

I'm back...
SATA is 120G, Does anybody know why is is coming up as 114?

 

[skinzz]

I did some research here and found out that this is a normal outcome of large drives (I will eventually understand the technical reason for this)
Thanks again

 

[jsauce]

My motherboard allows me to connect SATA, but only through the existing controllers and a convertor cable. I don't think all motherboards give the user an additional controller just for the SATA, but it's cool some do.

John D. Saucier
jsauce@magicguild.com
Certified Technician
Network Administrator

 

[pmonett]

The technical reason is usually that hard disk vendors do not have the same notion of giga that you and Windows does.
The proper definition of a gigabyte is 1024*1024*1024 = 1,073,741,824 bytes.
However, HDD vendors use a different one, they say that a gigabyte is 1,000,000,000 bytes.
It is the same kind of confusion that prompted the Y2K "millenium" affair, with some people insisting that 2000 was the start of a new thousand, whereas others insisted that the new millenium started in 2001.
For the calendar issue, I do not care. Fine, use whatever definition you want. In 2004, by any definition, we have definitely started the third millenium since the death of Christ.
But on the matter of disk space, I find it astounding that companies with so much technological excellence would resort to such simple tactics just to make their wares sport bigger numbers.

Pascal.

 

[Travis1]

I was reading through information about setting up properly SATARaid HDD and I am still goddamn confused. Thankfully I have great patience and didn't threw PC out of the window.LOL
Recently I purchased new mobo: ASUS-P4G8X and I have 1.7ghz Intel CPU, 512 mb DDR-DIMM memory, I also have 2 hard disks: 1 master WD 20 Gig. the other Quantum Fireball (very old one and I still use it for junk and bits to store rather than on main HDD. I also have DVD and CD-rw/r and a floppy drive. I tried every possible way in changing the jumpers even did changed the jumpers on SATA drive in order to be recognized. It's quite frustrating for me and I certainly hope someone will be able to tell me a little bit more in details how to set it up correctly (right now I've removed SATA drive from its bay and just formatted HDD as it was acting strangely and VERY SLOW, since my mobo is fast enough and it should be doing a bit faster (that's my understanding).
Here's what I have been doing:
First, when booting process starts all is ok with HDD, floppy disk, and optical drives, and then it comes to RAID Configuartion Utility, I press F4 to enter the utility and there's like 3 pane screen. First pane had configuration sections, to your right is instruction pane, and below the setup pane it says 0 PM and * 1 SM WCD WD1200JD 00GB00.
Now I clicked on: "Create Raid set" then the message comes: "Not enough single drives to create Raid set!
Then I clicked on: "Delete Raid Set"
The answer is: "No Raid Set exists !"
Then clicked on: "Rebuild Mirrored set"
Answer: "No Mirrored Set. Press any key to return.
Then clicked the last setup which is: "Resolve conflicts"
the answer is "No conflicts exist".
Then when nothing worked I clicked "CRTL"+E to exit, and started normal boot from my HDD.
If you wanted to know what my mobo have, here's the link to it and you can have a look and let mek now if any of you know how to do it right, and is it possible to use these two hard disk and optical drives. I know I might have to get rid of one hard disk (probably quantum where I keep trash) and would like to save some files before I remove it.
The link to my mobo is:

http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socket478/p4g8x-d/overview.htm

I also downloaded newer bios from Asus web site and newer Chipset utility driver, but did NOT install them yet, as I would like to know how to back up the current BIOS into floppy drive. Can you guys instruct me?

I thank everyone who is willing to make this SATA work for me, and you know we all learn and from learning we're advancing our own knowledge about computer and that's how one becomes master to work with.

Thanks.

 

[Travis1]

By the way, I forgot to tell you that I have AGP 8 video card "ASUS V9520 Magic/T GPU-NVIDIA GeForce 5200. The full link to the site is:

http://usa.asus.com/products/vga/v9520m/overview.htm

Thanks

 

[micker377]

If one of the CDR's is a burner, they may not work on the same cable. (Although I had one installation that the instructions insisted they be on the same cable!)