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Printing 2xA4 on 1xA3

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chazb

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Jul 12, 2000
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I have PM 6.5Plus with a Canon GP605.<br><br>I want to print page 2 and page 27 of a publication, both A4, on one side of a single A3.<br><br>How can I do this???
 
Print them as THUMBNAILS (print 2, 27...go to paper options, select A3, check thumbnails & print &quot;2&quot; thumbnails per page)
 

Define A3 empty page and store as P0227.P65
Mark all in page 2, connect to group and copy
Insert in A3 left and position fine and store P0227.P65
Mark all in page 27, connect to group and copy
Insert in A3 right and position fine and store P0227.P65

Assumed: document starts with title page 1

Not professional but understandable !
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The professional way is this:
Bind all your e.g. 40 pages to a book (I did it) .
This means: Include pages A4 portrait 1, 2, ... 40 in right order in the book content,
which is assigned to the first page. This is good also for PDF-conversion.

Then use plug-in &quot;assembly&quot; (German: Montage)
Here define a page A3 landscape and an assembling mode.
The unpleasant feature is, that you have to deal also with
simplex or duplex printing.

Therefore new start:
Assumed you want to assemble page 40 + 1 ,each A4 portrait, on one A3 landscape.
Then 39 + 2, 38 + 3 and so on for two passes of simplex printing with manual reversing.

First you would like to print all pages 40+1, 38+3 and so on simplex.

Then you must copy all pages into a new folder and define the book completely new:
40, 1; 38, 3; ... Last page of cover is left !
2, 39; 4, 37; ... Page 2 is left !

Then use mode: &quot;2 pages on one&quot; and print first pass (10 sheets of paper A3 landscape)
Then turn printed paper and print second pass (rear side, starting with 2 );

High risc, that you print on the wrong page! Good luck.
G.Hoffmann (Germany)


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I figured it out! What I do now is use Build Booklet to copy the page 2 and 27 (the inside cover), then I add a blank page before and after, then print as &quot;readers spreads&quot;.

Anyway now for another problem I have...

I am using a Canon GP605 digital copier which should work in either Postscript or PCL mode. Since reinstalling Windows and PageMaker on a new PC, PM6.5 will only print if I force the GP605 into PS mode. These means nobody can print their PCL documents.

If I leave the GP605 in auto detection mode and try to print from PM, it justs prints raw postscript. Both Adobe and Canon have been unable to solve my problem... [sig][/sig]
 
You say, that the printer prints PS if you force him - probably by the menue keys on the machine.
Then he prints the content of the PS page as expected.
This means: the PS header and the code is OK.
Header:
%!PS-Adobe-3.0 (or 2.0)

Otherwise the ASCII Code is printed.
This is already a PCL operation.

Your printer can print PCL and PS as well.

Probably the automatic detection is not correctly installed.
I would search in the depths of the menue key hierarchy for such an option.

One item has to be checked too:
This printer must perhaps be installed twice, one for PCL output, one for PS.

G.Hoffmann

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Thanks for the reply.

The exact same setup worked fine on my old PC. I have tried several full reinstalls of Windows and PageMaker but the same result. I have both the PCL and latest Adobe PS driver installed. I am using the correct PPD files. A CP660 dual mode PCL/PS printer I also have works fine with PM.

On the GP605 I can select either PCL only mode, PS only mode, or Auto Detect mode. If I use Auto Detect mode with all software it prints out fine in either PCL or PS. But in Pagemaker just the raw Postscript. This would point to some kind of problem with the PS header that PM creates, but I cannot find anything that I can change in PM.

I have spent two days trying different settings and installations but with no luck, so I have given up for the moment and just leave it Postscript only mode, but would like to be able to use this setup as intended.

Another thing that is really annoying is when I speak to Canon they say its Adobe and when I speak to Adobe they says its a problem with Canon!!!

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Your information is very precise.
Could it be the difference of PS 2.0 and PS 3.0 ?
Recommendation:
Make a short job in PM (no images),
Print to file (or print with your unlucky printer in ASCII !).
View with text editor (eventually rename temporarily to *.txt ).
Compare version numbers and header construction
for PM application and other applications, e.g. Photoshop.

There are some enigmatic comments, that PM bypasses the Windows PS driver.
In my applications this causes no problems (Lexmark 4079+ and QMS Magicolor 6000).
These comments are somewhere on the PM CD, I don´t know where at present.

G.Hoffmann

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Its obvious that PageMaker is doing its own thing here!

Word:
%!PS-Adobe-3.1
%%Title: Microsoft Word - Document1
%%Creator: ADOBEPS4.DRV Version 4.41
%%CreationDate: 10/20/2000 17:56:57

PM:
%!PS-Adobe-3.0
%%Title: Untitled-1
%%Creator: PageMaker 6.5
%%CreationDate: 10-20-2000, 17:57:46

I can email you a couple of test files if you want.

But I was thinking that if it worked on my old PC and not on my new one, could'nt it be some kind of setting, perhaps in the registry??? [sig][/sig]
 
Interesting information !
Do you see this special first character &quot;square&quot; which is a replacement for an unprintable character ?
The printer cannot detect PS mode.
I would remove this by a text editor (temporarily *.txt) and try it again.
If it works then Adobe should try to explain, who inserts this this character.
It is also possible to install any other dummy PS printer and make an EPS file.
Perhaps the printer driver inserts the alien ?

Gernot Hoffmann [sig][/sig]
 
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