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DarrenPower
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If you mean for brainstorming etc. then or have fairly good products to aid you.
iamawriter
Technical User
I've done a lot of surfing and found some good PMP discussion groups (mostly Yahoo sites) where people talk about what materials they used to study/pass the exam, but no braindumps. If you find any, please let me know! (I'll probably be taking the test in January 2003.
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I've only heard of the term 'braindump' as a site where people report actual exam material. If this is what you mean, you may not be aware that the PMP professional code of conduct specifically prohibits this. If you contribute to a site such as this you would be stripped of your certification. I've heard of people for being reported for doing this even in one-on-one conversation. If anyone learns of this type of site, please report it to PMI at pmi.org.
Good point, Elizabeth, but I would like to take it further than that. The primary value of any certification to the holder is to validate years of experience and knowledge in the workplace. From an employer's perspective, however, it is the perceived value of a given certification and what it brings to a particular company in helping meet the business objectives of that company, hence the financial component of the certification. Braindumps detract from this perceived value. Several well-known certs have suffered due to the "braindump" mentality, the MCSE springing to mind immediately. The people who have labored, studied and strived for the right to the PMP certification are no more likely to participate in braindumping than they would participate in other illicit actions.
I believe that the vast majority of PMPs will not participate in braindumps because it is wrong, ultimately deteriorates the value of the certification and not because they are afraid of being stripped of their certification. That is a tool that PMI reserves to punish the transgressor, but realistically, the web is so fluid that most braindump sites will thrive anyway. Only if the people who have earned the right to wear the PMP lapel pin refuse to participate in this activity can it be stopped. Cisco certificants, at all levels, are among the most adamant about not participating in braindumps. A blatant request such as the one above will meet with instant flames on any Cisco certification group. These folks understand the value of a strong certification and protect it zealously.
As an adjunct instructor in the computer science department for a local community college, I tell my students to "Learn it and you will Earn it" in reference both to degree and certification tracks. To me, using braindumps to circumvent the requirements and true knowledge that only experience can bring is equivalent to cheating on exams. It is wrong and no one should support the lazy ones out there who are willing to cheat and are seeking PMP certification, or any other certification for that matter, merely for financial gain. So my advice for jflg and other braindumpers is to hit the books, be a project manager, meet the requirements to earn the PMP, and quit looking for the easy way out. If you disagree with my humble opinion or if there are those among the current PMPs who think differently, feel free to let me know.
Thanks for letting me vent,
Joe Joseph B. Baugh, PMP, CISSP, CBM, CCAI, CCNP, CCDP, CCSE, CUE
Network Services Manager, Sierra Southwest Cooperative
"The road goes on forever and the party never ends." -- Joe Ely: Love And Danger, 1993
I believe that the vast majority of PMPs will not participate in braindumps because it is wrong, ultimately deteriorates the value of the certification and not because they are afraid of being stripped of their certification. That is a tool that PMI reserves to punish the transgressor, but realistically, the web is so fluid that most braindump sites will thrive anyway. Only if the people who have earned the right to wear the PMP lapel pin refuse to participate in this activity can it be stopped. Cisco certificants, at all levels, are among the most adamant about not participating in braindumps. A blatant request such as the one above will meet with instant flames on any Cisco certification group. These folks understand the value of a strong certification and protect it zealously.
As an adjunct instructor in the computer science department for a local community college, I tell my students to "Learn it and you will Earn it" in reference both to degree and certification tracks. To me, using braindumps to circumvent the requirements and true knowledge that only experience can bring is equivalent to cheating on exams. It is wrong and no one should support the lazy ones out there who are willing to cheat and are seeking PMP certification, or any other certification for that matter, merely for financial gain. So my advice for jflg and other braindumpers is to hit the books, be a project manager, meet the requirements to earn the PMP, and quit looking for the easy way out. If you disagree with my humble opinion or if there are those among the current PMPs who think differently, feel free to let me know.
Thanks for letting me vent,
Joe Joseph B. Baugh, PMP, CISSP, CBM, CCAI, CCNP, CCDP, CCSE, CUE
Network Services Manager, Sierra Southwest Cooperative
"The road goes on forever and the party never ends." -- Joe Ely: Love And Danger, 1993
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Try this site - it has tons of data and links and evaluates various methodology and approaches used in Project Management. I have used this as a reference many times while working on my current assignment of mapping standard work processes for the engineering firm I work for.
MindMapper
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DarrenPower (Programmer) Nov 15, 2002
If you mean for brainstorming etc. then is an old URL, new URL is
Lisa Lee
If you mean for brainstorming etc. then is an old URL, new URL is
Lisa Lee
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On PMPCert, a Yahoo group, there is a freeware package called TranDumper. This program (along with a number of sample exams also available at the site) may be what you are referring to.
In any event ... when I was preparing to write the exam I tried a variety of different sources for tests and info on the exam.
Here's everything you need to know.
1. The new format has 200 questions (no change) with only a, b, c, or d answers (that's a change) and none of the answers is a combination such as "a and c".
2. If you have experience in working on projects (you have to document 4,000 hours if you have a degree) you will have learned just about everything you need to know ... except the theory. You will need to read a variety of materials for the theory -- but *most* (all?) of the theory is mentioned (even if only in passing) in the PMBOK Guide.
3. I purchased a variety of materials and none of them was particularly useful. In fact, my experience was that a _full_ understanding of the PMBOK Guide (which you get when you join PMI) is sufficient to pass the exam.
In the end, I
(a) memorized the 39 processes in the process groups and knew which were core and which weren't;
(b) took each chapter and highlighted and underlined all the detail information in each chapter;
(c) understood the flow from one core process to the next;
(d) understood the I,T&T,O well enough so that I could identify which outputs from one process became inputs to another process; and
(e) understood the EV equations.
A, C, D and E are simple memory work.
B requires reading and re-reading and re-reading each chapter in the PMBOK Guide. I spent about 2 hours reading the highlighted and underlined material in the PMBOK guide every day and writing out the 39 processes, equations, etc.
Looking back, I spent about 200 hours studying -- way more than I needed to pass, but just enough to make ne confident when I wrote the exam.
When I wrote the exam, the first two questions were like being hit by a baseball bat. The next 8 weren't much easier. After about 20 questions, the rest just seemed to fall into place and were easy to answer. At 2 hours 5 minutes, I had completed my first pass. I took a washroom break. I came back and did the ones I had left blank and revisited the ones I had tagged. By 2:25 I was done. I didn't bother to review (okay, I reviewed 5 questions and decided I had better things to do).
pdqbach, PMP
In any event ... when I was preparing to write the exam I tried a variety of different sources for tests and info on the exam.
Here's everything you need to know.
1. The new format has 200 questions (no change) with only a, b, c, or d answers (that's a change) and none of the answers is a combination such as "a and c".
2. If you have experience in working on projects (you have to document 4,000 hours if you have a degree) you will have learned just about everything you need to know ... except the theory. You will need to read a variety of materials for the theory -- but *most* (all?) of the theory is mentioned (even if only in passing) in the PMBOK Guide.
3. I purchased a variety of materials and none of them was particularly useful. In fact, my experience was that a _full_ understanding of the PMBOK Guide (which you get when you join PMI) is sufficient to pass the exam.
In the end, I
(a) memorized the 39 processes in the process groups and knew which were core and which weren't;
(b) took each chapter and highlighted and underlined all the detail information in each chapter;
(c) understood the flow from one core process to the next;
(d) understood the I,T&T,O well enough so that I could identify which outputs from one process became inputs to another process; and
(e) understood the EV equations.
A, C, D and E are simple memory work.
B requires reading and re-reading and re-reading each chapter in the PMBOK Guide. I spent about 2 hours reading the highlighted and underlined material in the PMBOK guide every day and writing out the 39 processes, equations, etc.
Looking back, I spent about 200 hours studying -- way more than I needed to pass, but just enough to make ne confident when I wrote the exam.
When I wrote the exam, the first two questions were like being hit by a baseball bat. The next 8 weren't much easier. After about 20 questions, the rest just seemed to fall into place and were easy to answer. At 2 hours 5 minutes, I had completed my first pass. I took a washroom break. I came back and did the ones I had left blank and revisited the ones I had tagged. By 2:25 I was done. I didn't bother to review (okay, I reviewed 5 questions and decided I had better things to do).
pdqbach, PMP
iamawriter
Technical User
No - we're not referring to brainstorming. The question was about braindumps - places where people post information about (usually certification) tests they have taken.
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