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[bronc]

I have a document dated 20th August 1999. The 20th is dispayed with the th as superscript.

This feature of course can be turned on and off in Office 2000 & 2003 but can anyone tell me please if this feature was available with Ofice '97 which was presumably supposedly used to write this document. ie is the document genuine!

 

[xwb]

Yes, it is available in Office 4.3, Office 95 and Office 97.

I'm still using Office 4.3 - same as Office 95 except that you can take it everywhere on a memory stick (it will fit comfortably on a 64Mb stick) and you don't require any registry entries to run it!

I haven't checked if it is available on Word 2 yet.

As for how genuine the document is - I don't know how you can check that.

 

[bronc]

thanks a lot. that is useful to know.
i've been looking at other features which may disprove the date on this legal document eg i notice it has some en dashes but that was in for office 97 as well- and also its got smart quotes but no luck there either since i understand they were around then as well.

 

[tf1]

Unless the documetn has been deliberately cleaned, you should be able to use doc properties to find out when it was created, when it has been edited and by whom.

You can also insert fields such as CreateDate to find out date of creation, LastSavedBy and a whole load of other hidden meta data.


Regards: tf1

 

[strongm]

>Ofice '97 which was presumably supposedly used to write this document

I'm guessing that you base this on the fact that 1999 is earlier than 2000, and that therefore Office 2000 couldn't have been used - which is possibly wrong, I'm afraid. Office 2000 was released at the beginning of 1999, so it is at least feasible that the document be created with the latter product.

I'm not sure that trying to date a document via the features is all that viable.

 

[bronc]

Sorry i forgot to mention that I only have hard copy.

Yes I suspected Micrsoft would have issed Office 2000 before the year 2000 but couldn't quite remember so that is also very helpful to me.

Thanks again (all).

 

[fumei]

If I understand correctly, you are essentially trying to disprove the date the document is supposed to have been written.

If someone is deliberately trying to make it look like it came from that date, it would be virtually impossible to do so from a hard copy, using any typographical (word processing) identifiers.

The only thing would be forensic analysis of the paper and ink.

Even an electronic file would not be all that hard to fiddle and alter, even CreateDate.

The bottom line is documents, or any other electronically produced output (text, images, data....) are now only as "true" as we want to believe they are. A clever, determined person with good software and time can make almost anything seem like something else.

I just made a document (Monday Feb 25th 2008) with a CreateDate of May 7th 1998. And there ya go. Took two minutes.

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