NT Remote Site 1

[Helfenmir]

Any Help Please!

Remote site PDC and a few workstations,
Server IP 192.168.1.3

Main site PDC BDC and others + workstations
Server IP 192.168.0.1

I need to be able to allow the remote users to logon to the Main site and access various data. And be able to browse the network from any PC and see all server and workstations.

Do i need WINS server at both sites? Do I need to use wins on clients. Will the main site provide the IP address via DHCP for the remote users? Please note I'm still trying to ping each site's servers at present, the routing is another prob.
Thanks in anticipation

helfenmir

 

[GiaBetiu]

Hi,

If you don't want broadcasting between your two networks you sure need a WINS server (once/ network).
Also using WINS will be easier for trust relationship that you must make it between the two domains (you will not need to use LMHOSTS). Your main site should trust the remote domain.
And yes, use WINS on clients.
You have to install on your remote site WINS. And you need an integration WINS-DHCP, so I recomend to you to install DHCP also on the remote site.
For more informations about reducing the traffic ( because it will be synchronizationtraffic) check this article:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q142692

And about router, what do you mean? Have you a routers? Or you want to use NT servers?
Gia Betiu
m.betiu@chello.nl
Computer Eng. CNE 4, CNE 5

 

[Helfenmir]

Hi GiaBetiu

Many thanks for replying. In answer to your question,
I have two Netopia routers I'm trying to setup between sites prior to trying to communicate between the NT Domains.

When I can ping between the servers, and have WINS running both ends, will I be able to set a trust up without installing any other comms protocols, hosts files or NetBIOS stuff?

Do I need to set the clients to 'Resolve WINS address using DHCP' or do I enter the address of the WINS Server?

Will the remote terminals have the option of accessing bothDomains, Main and Remote, and if so will the obtain their DHCP address from the pdc of their chosen respective Domain?


How will I sync the WINS database between the two sites?

Thanks again for your Help! Don't worry if you can't answer them all. Any help will be appreciated.

Helfenmir

 

[GiaBetiu]

Hi,

I will answer to a few of your question. For step by step instructions how to set it, better to chat or to write emails.
Ping and WINS are two different things. Ping is an IP tool, and WINS is related to NetBIOS. You don't need to install ither protocols. IP is enough. IP on NT will run NeBT as protocol for NetBIOS.
So first steps for you should be:
1. Make the IP connectivity (having a plan for addresses in both locatons, instaling DHCP, configure routers)
2. Install WINS on both servers, and configure them boh for push and pull to each other (if you go in menu, in relations you will see how)
3. Configure DHCP for distribute WINS settings (server option and node type)
4. Make the trust relationship between them (unidirectional or bi, as you wish)
5. Set your clients to use DHCP
6. Tunning WINS (set the push/pull process between the two WINS servers, moment in time, intervals)

Few details:
- open DHCP and go to DHCP Options, scope options
- choose option 044 (WINS/NBNS Server) and assign it with the WINS server address)
- choose option 046 (WINS/NBT node type) and assign it value 0x8
- in WINS Manager, you have to add the other server, you can find this option in the menu
- then, go in menu in relations.

Come on,... is not so difficult.
If you cannot manage write me.

Success! Gia Betiu
m.betiu@chello.nl
Computer Eng. CNE 4, CNE 5

 

[Helfenmir]

Hi GiaBetiu

Thanks very much for your help. Hopefully next week I will have the routers working properly and will be able to put your advice into practice. I may need to ask you for some more advice so check this continuing thread out when you have time.

Many Thanks again for your help.
Helfenmir

 

[lorenm]

Helfenmir,

It's actually easier than you might think. Giabetiu got it all more o' less except that I don't believe you need to set up any sort of "Trust Relationship" between your servers. This is something that only needs to be done when you have multiple domains. I couldn't really tell from your first post if your servers are in the same domain or not. If they are just in different locations with different IP's but the same domain then you don't need to set up a Trust Relationship. If however it is two separate domains, you'll need the trust relationship. Also, you need to get a router set up that routes correctly between the two and yes, definitely set up WINS on both client and server. Having done this, your clients should be able to browse through the network just fine.

Hope this helps clarify things a bit.

 

[Helfenmir]

Thanks Very much. I'm still working on those darn routers but I think I'm getting there. I search now by IP address but not by computer name.

Thanks
helfenmir

 

[GiaBetiu]

Write me if you need help! Gia Betiu
m.betiu@chello.nl
Computer Eng. CNE 4, CNE 5

 

[Helfenmir]

Hi GiaBetui

Well things are moving along, albeit rather slowly!

I have copied this passage below from your earlier help, however, I wondered if you could expand on it for me.

choose option 046 (WINS/NBT node type) and assign it value 0x8
- in WINS Manager, you have to add the other server, you can find this option in the menu
- then, go in menu in relations.

Also some more questions if I may: -

Can I have my WINS Server installed on another NT server in the same Domain and subnet and not on my PDC or BDC?

Also, when it talks about a secondary WINS Server, is it referring to my WINS server at my remote site and different Domain. Or, is it referring to a secondry WINS server in the same Domain at the Main site. If that is the case it will need to be on a different server again and will it update between Primary and secondary as a default procedure?
All this as well as my Primary WINS setup to PUSH and PULL with my remote site's Primary WINS.


Also in a slightly different vain if the PDC fails the BDC should take over, but if the DHCP is installed on the PDC and not on the BDC how is the BDC going to provide dynamic IP address in the event of a PDC failure.

Your helps been great!!
Many Thanks
Helfenmir