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donbott

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Dec 4, 2003
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Is it alright to refer to NOW as a broad based organization?
 
Sha,

Yep - that's the one. The term is bitch (I don’t think anyone will be too scandalized by the appearance of the word. We are all adults discussing language).

I'm personally not offended by it (or any single word, for that matter), but it is considered a 'bad word' in the States.

Actually, I guess bitch is kind of a '2nd Degree' bad word (I just made that term up), as it can be said on television along with damn and hell, but is still considered rude – I’d expect to get dirty looks from parents if I used any of those terms around children.

Then there are the ‘3rd degree’ bad words that aren’t allowed on broadcast television and are rarely heard in public.

Again, I agree with you and I am not offended when I’m called a bitch (a term which some of my friends - male and female - will use to address one another). But I wouldn’t address a woman I don’t know as a bitch. So clearly there is some level of taboo around the word.

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re: "B-Word"

My wife and I own a store, so all purchases must reflect on us in some way. One of the gift areas has wall calendars- beautiful birds, gardens, "The Power of Women," and a selection of about 15-20 other designs. All pretty nice, sweet... Then you get to a few that are in a vintage style. This is where you would find the "B-Word" calendar (not spelled out on the front of the calendar- but they are in BIG letters). The images combined with the quotes are quite funny.

We weren't sure if we would offend. So who buys them? 100% women. Not one male has purchased this. Gift versus personal purchase? About 50/50. And every customer was a very nice person (we don't really have many grumpy people to begin with). Age range? Generally over 25- mostly over 40. Not a very scientific study, but I'd say nobody was offended. Whew! Some sanity back in the world of words!
Nick
 
anotherhiggins,
thanks for clarifying. I can laugh now and feel like a part of this 'talking'...

To me broad sounds more like a 'plain not 'girly' woman' like policebroad, mailbroad, truckbroad. I was wondering about this word. Or man calling woman 'broad' has no romantic intentions for her, right?
 
Back in the day , 'broad' and 'dame' had similar connotations - something like
' a woman that a man felt he could get along with without changing his behavior '
or
'a good sport'

See
Sinatra, Frank,
Hamlet, Dashiell,
Runyon, Damon

for further reference...





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Since I no longer have any control over my 6 adult children (ages 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, and 30), I can only apologise for my 25-year-old daughter's T-shirt that reads:
Daughter's T-Shirt said:
I'm not a BITCH...You're just a SISSY!
[hairpull]

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Santa,

What happened in 1976? Too busy? ;)

Dave


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CRilliterate,

re: "Or man calling woman 'broad' has no romantic intentions for her, right?"

You had better know her very well! But you would be far safer to not use "broad". If you do, please entertain us with the results.

Nick
 
Dame could be used to a not very familiar dame, doesn't it?
I see Dame is girly and Broad is not...
 
CRilliterate,

I've never really thought about it, but I think you're on to something with your observation that, "Dame is girly and Broad is not". Still, both are considered out-of-fashion at best and would more likely be interpreted as sexist.

Broad and Dame are terms you would hear in a black-and-white movie where the old, grizzled (male, of course) paper editor pays a 'compliment' to a feisty, beautiful young (female, of course) secretary by saying, "nice job, toots" while he slaps her ass.

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Isn't 'Dame' still a title in England?


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CR (and anyone else that wonders about the term), "Broad" typically is a "lower-class" term...not necessarily referring to a lower-class woman, but certainly a reflection of the speaker. You wouldn't, for example, expect to hear the term issue from the mouth of a "distinguished gentleman"; if you heard it at all, it would come from the mouth of someone like an uncouth "East-ender" or equally uncouth "Bronx-er", et cetera.

It is a fairly antiquated term amongst even the uncouth. Where you might have heard the term frequently during the 1930s through the 1960s, it has given way to terms such as "Chick", or (if the "subject" is attractive) "Babe" or "Hottie".

Of course, I've been "out of circulation" for some 33 years now, my "Lexicon of Terms for Women that Show My Low-class and Stupidity" may have changed, but perhaps others can bring us all up to date. <grin>

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SantaMufasa said:
... my "Lexicon of Terms for Women that Show My Low-class and Stupidity" may have changed, but perhaps others can bring us all up to date. <grin>
Stop staring at me, Santa!
[wink]

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CRilliterate,

(I do not own emoticon!)
What do you mean? You don't have to own it in order to use it. Check out Emoticons/Smileys and Process TGML links on the bottom of that window where you write your responses.

 
To answer the question posed a few posts above, yes 'Dame' is still a title in the UK. That said, one of my favourite Show Musical numbers is 'There is nothing like a Dame' from South Pacific. Bet that gets the song into some folks heads for all of Friday now!

 
Yes, Ken, but I'll bet that the last time anyone used "Dame" in an actual conversation (in the same sense as "Broad"), it probably dates back to 1958 when "South Pacific" was released as a movie, right?[smile]

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