Nortel 4.50w 3

[miller3383]

Can anyone give me the pdt memory location of the password for a Nortel 4.50w system?

 

[NortelGuy1979]

A certified Nortel partner can assist in password retrieval - in this forum, we won't discuss it.

I will tell you this - in 4.5 and above, they're stored in a one-way hash, you're not going to retrieve it. (This is in the NTP, so its not proprietary). The password is never stored on the PBX, only the result of the 1-way HASH function:

In addition, this feature changes the algorithm used to encrypt system passwords to improve security. With this feature, passwords are hashed along with the username using the Secure Hash Algorithm (SHA-1) function. The result is a 160-bit value stored in the password file. Passwords offered as login credentials are then processed the same way, and the results are compared before the password is accepted.

Nortel Communication Server 1000
Nortel Communication Server 1000 Release 4.5
What’s New for Communication Server
1000 Release 4.5
Document Number: 553-3001-015
Document Release: Standard 1.00
Date: August 2005

Matthew - Technical Support Engineer

http://www.linkedin.com/in/matty79

 

[miller3383]

OK, thanks!

 

[Wane47]

553-3001-302 System Security Management for 4.5, probably is what you are looking for.

 

[miller3383]

Thanks Wane47! That was helpful. However I need the hexadecimal address location which is not provided in that document.

 

[Firebird Scrambler]

As stated above the password structure is stored away from the main database and it's not in the same format as before.

Why do you want to recover it?. It's easier, just to reset the passwords using the override method, but you will have to call upon a specialist who knows the procedure.

We don't discuss it on this forum.

P.S. Are you able to log in at a lower LAPW level?.

All the best

Firebird Scrambler
Meridian 1 / Succession and BCM / Norstar Programmer in the UK

http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidbromley

If it's working, then leave it alone!.

 

[phones1]

I dont think you can crack the pwd for 4.5 as at that sware level it is case sensitive & you can use .,_- (etc) which wasnt previously the case

Remember if it doesn't work hit it harder

Scott UK

 

[miller3383]

I don't know any of the 1st, 2nd or LAPW passwords. I can get into pdt and work there, but that is all that I can do.

 

[sneb]

Read page 108 onwards of 553-3001-302 System Security Management for 4.5, if you have PDT access it should be straight foward from there

 

[NortelGuy1979]

Ok, wow, you don't need to know any password.

You need:
1) Physical access to the PBX. Prove you're allowed there.
2) Your TID or serial number. Prove it's yours.
3) Your install media. Prove you bought it.

Then follow the procedure that two people have mentioned the book for, the Security Management NTP. Nortel has kindly provided a password reset mechanism for at least R3.0 and up I think? It's in my 3.0 System Security Management NTP...

You don't have to know any passwords, PDT, LAPW, PWD1, or PWD2, to do this. Nortel learned around 3.0 that a end-user / system admin reset function was a good idea, and then in 4.5 that encryption was a good idea.

If you don't have any of the 3 things above, get a vendor to do it for you, any vendor worth their salt will be able to do it and will also have the necessary forms or procedure / disclaimer about resetting passwords.

No one here will tell you any other way to hack a password or retrieve or reset it except the Nortel published and approved way - else, we get unhappy people from Nortel (er, Avaya) calling us. It's just poor practice.

A Star to Firebird, Wayne, and Sneb for pointing out the correct NTP and procedure ;-)

-Matthew

Matthew - Technical Support Engineer

http://www.linkedin.com/in/matty79

 

[Firebird Scrambler]

Just for the record, There are ways to find out the password or create a new PWD2 account at 4.5 on the old SSC cards. I know two ways although both methods depend on various factors, but there really isn't any point as the reset method should work OK and is much quicker.

Thanks for the star Matt!.



All the best

Firebird Scrambler
Meridian 1 / Succession and BCM / Norstar Programmer in the UK

http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidbromley

If it's working, then leave it alone!.

 

[miller3383]

Thanks for all the input. I am slowly putting all the pieces together from various sources and I am making progress.

 

[miller3383]

Mission accomplished! Thanks to all who assisted and provided the direction needed to resolve this problem.