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Noise on phones when picking up at first ring.

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EyeHog

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Mar 21, 2012
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I have an IP Office that had no issues prior to the service provider switching to incoming fiber. We have Windstream, and they have a router that puts out the analog lines and data. This router was running on copper, and they replaced it with another router that is now being working on fiber into the building.

Since the cut over, you hear a loud static on the handset when you answer a call on the first ring of the phone. This did not happen before. The noise is NOT heard by the outside caller. The noise is NOT heard on the line with a test set. The noise is NOT the caller ID. I can hear that tone with my buttset normally after the first ring.

This is what is sounds like:
Here is a time line of the call:

Place a call on my cell phone.
First ring comes on the line, Call Status say "Pre-alerting"
Caller ID signal comes in.
Second ring comes in on the line, and the huntgroup rings for the first time.
Answer the call, and hear up to one second of loud noise, on the system phone only.
Call works normally.

If you wait for the first system ring to finish before you answer, you do not hear the noise.

I found this thread thread940-1648989 from 2011 explaining the exact same problem. In this thread, there is talk of a work around ( ) using an announcement. I have tried this, and it does not work for me. Call status shows the announcement being played, but when you answer quickly, you still hear the noise. I have also tried routing the incoming call to a user and forwarding to the huntgroup, sending it to another huntrgroup with no users, or a dummy user, with an overflow delay of a couple of seconds. Essentially, i've tried to build in some sort of delay, or way for the system to answer the call first, but every time when it rings the main huntgroup, you hear the noise.

I'm hoping someone else has encountered this problem since 2011 and may have a better solution. Before we had this issue the incoming lines were not POTS lines, they were still coming out of the CO's router. The only change is, there router is now being served by fiber not copper. This leads me to change it may be a configuration in their router. I've been working with Windstream, and we've played with line, CID, voltage, and compression settings, and have heard no change. We don't know what else to try.

TL:DR Noise on handset when picked up quickly, not the CID signal, not heard by the caller.



---EyeHog
 
From what I can make out from those posts the issue is the sh1tty breakout boxes they use to emulate analogue trunks, I guess as long as they use those boxes to provide lines you are going to have this issue every now and then, with no way to fix it other than change the service. I notice others have the same issue on other systems so it's not the IP Office specifically, more a mix of those boxes and PABX equipment :)

 
This is coincidence. I was dispatched last night with the exact same issue. It was a IPO Partner version with ETR ATM cards. Lines 3 and 4 would make a terrible sound when you picked them up for an incoming call. No problem on outgoing. This site had genuine copper trunks, however. Left it at replace the module.
 
yup, had the problem and got no resolution, the customer move and changed providers. Verizon did install some line filters that helped a little but nothing that fixed it. Sorry I have no answers for this.
Mike
 
Bummer. That's what I thought. These analog emulators are always a real pain. I wish everything would be POTS or PRI/T1. Thanks guys.

I'm going to try using the incoming call route to send the calls to an analog extension with no phone (so it doesn't know there is no phone there) and forward on no answer after two seconds to the main huntgroup. I don't know if creating this delay will help, but it's the only thing i've got to go on now.

I'll update when i've tried it.

---EyeHog
 
I figured out a work around that works for me.

I am routing the incoming calls to a huntgroup with just one analog extension that doesn't have a phone. This hunt group has announcements on, and a short overflow time which sends the call to the main huntgroup. This way the call gets answered, before it actually rings the phones.

---EyeHog
 
Try to change polarity on the lines.

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It works! Now if only I could remember what I did...

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