No way to format partition, new install win98

[aastuce]

Just trying to install win98 and win2000 Pro on the same HDD.

This is a new Install (I'vealready deleted everything on the HDD)

Regarding the procedure, it seems that the first step is installing win 98, then win 200 Pro.

Win 98 :
I'm booting on a floppy for enabling the cd-rom (mitsumi) , then launching Fdisk.
Enabling large HDD
No problem for the creation of the different partitions but never have the option to format them.
After fdisk, get a message : need a reboot before reformat.
Seems to be quite normal.
when rebooting from the floppy, I just have a black screen and stuck there.

To resolve the problem,I need to start with win2000 pro floopies and delete all the partition ("damaged or unformatted&quot.


No problem if I'm only installing win 2000 pro.

Seems to me that the HDD is not supported ?

This is a "rebuilt" Pc with 20 Go HDD

Any informations would be very appreciate !

 

[cyoung]

You need to have the command format.com on your boot floppy.

After you have set the partitions, reboot the computer from the boot floppy and then at the A:\ prompt, type format c:. This will get the disk ready for the install. After the format is complete, you should then be able to use your Win98 CD for the install.

Hope this helps!

 

[aastuce]

Sorry,
I do have Format.com (it is an official win98 startup floppy).
I don't have the prompt at the reboot (the famous black screen)

anyway, many thanks for your attention....

 

[edfair]

Your format would come on the reboot after fdisk created the partition.
It appears fdisk may have corrupted something affecting HD identification.
Try [F5] when boot starts to see if you can get to DOS without any drivers, or [F8] to do a selective load and run FDISK again. Delete any partitions found then reboot and create over.
There are some media descriptors that can't be seen by different versions, so you might have to go back to a DOS6 version to rid yourself of a corrupted partition. Ed Fair
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Any advice I give is my best judgement based on my interpretation of the facts you supply. Help increase my knowledge by providing some feedback, good or bad, on any advice I have given.

 

[Mace0410]

You might not have made the partition active. Run FDisk again and make sure the partition is active and is set as a logical drive.

 

[NOnoy]

Okay okay here goes.
Is your CD ROM bootable?
If so, boot from your CD ROM with WIN98.
During the install process it will know to format it.

If your CDROM is not bootable then :
(1) Copy the format.com from a working WIn98 PC and copy it to your floppy
(2) After you've partitioned your HHD, boot to floppy
(3) Do the command "format c: /s"
(4) Reboot to HHD
(5) Install MITSUMI CD Rom driver ( any CD drivers )
(6) Run setup from CDROM




Install Win2K pro with Win98 so they can both be there.

 

[aastuce]

Ok,
Thanks everybody for your support....
......but I'm still stuck there.

More informations about my problem :
- My CD-Rom drive is not compliant to "el torito" so, no way to boot from the CD-ROM.
- I did have check that the partition is active
- I didn't suceeded in booting from the floppy again and gatting a dos prompt after a Fdisk. The only method I found is to boot from win2000 pro floppy, delete all partitions.

Just for testing, I installed ONLY win2000 Pro with no problem.

Anyone got an Idea ???

 

[ff1048]

Just a thought, but have you tried using a zero out utility on the hard drive? I would also suggest making a new copy of the W98 boot disk to rule that out.

 

[mainegeek]

If you are trying to install a Dual-Boot System
It is easier to have both OS on the same partition.
Do Fdisk and create one primary partition.
Keep in mind, for every partition that you create it pushes
the drive letter for you CD ROM out by one.
ie: Crimary D:extended E:CDROM
Don't forget to format all partitions that you create.
Reboot computer.
At the Windows startup screen select Start Computer with CD ROM Support.
At the A:\ prompt change to D: or what ever your CDROM is.
Insert you Win98 CD and give it a second to spin up.
Type cd\WIN98 and press enter.
Type Format c: and press enter.
After format is complete type setup.
Select custom setup when prompted.
Don't install windows to the default windows directory.
Call it something like win98.
Get windows 98 up and running first.
Once this is done then install 2000 to C:
To start one or the other, press F8 at boot and select it. The default OS will be 2000.

 

[jmatt]

These sites cover dual boot .

http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q136/5/47.asp

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/winnt/winntas/Tips/techrep/dualboot.asp

http://www.maximumpc.com/reprint/quad_boot/index.html

http://www.webdev.net/orca/nojava/multi_booting.htm

http://www.infinisource.com/techfiles/dualboot.html

http://www.worldowindows.com/dualboot.html

http://members.home.net/scotterpops/articles/dualboot/dualboot1.html

http://www.tweak3d.net/articles/win2kdualboot/

http://www.budja.com/w2k/uninstall_w2k.html

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q104429

http://www.itp-journals.com/Windows_2000_dual_boot_page1.htm

http://search.atomz.com/search/?sp-q=dual+booting&sp-a=00091392-sp00000000&sp-advanced=1&sp-p=all

http://www.generation.net/~hleboeuf/boot.htm

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[BOKA]

1. How old is your BIOS? It may not support 20G drive properly. Win9x accesses HDD through BIOS; WinNT/2K - direct hardware access and, therefore, does not care much about BIOS support.
2. Try creating smaller partition - just as a test. First try less then 8G, then increase it if successfull.
3. There may be incompatibility issue between HDD and motherboard chipset - I had a similar problem awhile ago between Intel motherboard 430HX chipset and Maxtor HDD.

Good luck.

 

[jmatt]

This worth reading , even if the brand is different .

http://www.maxtor.com/technology/whitepapers/63001.html#solutions

 

[aastuce]

Ok, Boka you're right !!!!
Althrought I was creating a 8 Go partition, the problem was the same....
... but you gave me the key : by customizing the settings of the HDD in the Bios, it's now working.
I just need to upgrade the bios to make everything clean.

Thanks very much to all for your support.