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Network connection not automatically established

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TheGreatAndMerciless

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Apr 12, 2007
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My computer with Vista Ultimate, SP2 installed will not connect to my home network automatically. It will only connect manually. I'm using a Linksys wireless USB adapter and a Linksys router. When I try to set up the computer to connect automatically it will not do so and informs me that access is denied. Can any one tell me where the file is that I'm trying to modify so that I can change its permissions? I have three other computers in the house, using both Vista and XP and they all connect automatically. I do not have nor can I establish a network list. Any clue as to the proper course to take to rectify this matter will be appreciated.
 
Can any one tell me where the file is that I'm trying to modify so that I can change its permissions?
Sorry, but I am no Psychic or Mentalist...

as to your problem, try this:

Right click on your wireless network and then
properties. Check where it says connect even if the network is not broadcasting.




Ben
"If it works don't fix it! If it doesn't use a sledgehammer..."
How to ask a question, when posting them to a professional forum.
Only ask questions with yes/no answers if you want "yes" or "no"
 
Quote from initial inquiry: "I do not have nor can I establish a network list." The program will not create a list and when I try to do it manually I get the "access denied" message. Therefore there is no listed network to right click for modification.
 
How far down this path can you navigate before hitting any access denied message?

Control Panel\ Network and Sharing Center/ Manage Wireless Networks\ Double-click (or right-click) on Networks you can manage (your Wireless Network Icon)

If I am misunderstanding you (apologies) can you rephrase your question to show what you are clicking on and what happens when you do click on it?
 
I'll try to clarify my dilemma for you kind folks who are trying to help. Let's take "Manage Wireless Networks" and realize that it's empty and will not populate itself. When I try to manually insert a network I get the "access denied" message. A check of available wireless networks will reveal mine and those of folks close by. I can connect to mine only by doing so manually. When I do, the save as favorite box is checked by me but nothing is saved and the list remains empty. I have three other computers in my house running Vista and they all work properly by populating the list and then connecting to the network automatically. What has been suggested thus far is well known to me and will not work on this particular installation of Vista. From what I know of Vista there must be a folder or file(s) that have denied permission to be changed and I think that if I can find them/it I can possibly take possession of them/it and change their/its permissions. I really hate this aspect of Vista but one that I have been able to circumvent until this issue arrived.
 
set the connection to privat, nt public

M. Knorr

MCSE, MCTS, MCSA, CCNA
 
Therefore there is no listed network to right click for modification
and
A check of available wireless networks will reveal mine
DOESN'T make a whole lot of sense!!!

go to one of the other PC's running VISTA, open up the Tray Icon for the Wireless connections:

1. there is a LINK that states something along the lines of COPY THIS PROFILE TO A USB FLASH DRIVE, hit it and follow the instructions...

2. bring the USB Flash drive to the ailing PC... and AUTORUN it...



Ben
"If it works don't fix it! If it doesn't use a sledgehammer..."
How to ask a question, when posting them to a professional forum.
Only ask questions with yes/no answers if you want "yes" or "no"
 
Is there a problem on you machine, in Services, with the WLAN AutoConfig Service? It should be Started, and set to Automatic.

"The WLANSVC service provides the logic required to configure, discover, connect to, and disconnect from a wireless local area network (WLAN) as defined by IEEE 802.11 standards. It also contains the logic to turn your computer into a software access point so that other devices or computers can connect to your computer wirelessly using a WLAN adapter that can support this. Stopping or disabling the WLANSVC service will make all WLAN adapters on your computer inaccessible from the Windows networking UI. It is strongly recommended that you have the WLANSVC service running if your computer has a WLAN adapter."

This Service is dependent on several other Service too, use the Dependencies tab, to checkout these Services. You have to right-click on a Service to bring up the Properties.

While you in that area have a look at the Event Viewer logs and see if you can get any clues from that.

What is managing your Wireless setup, is it Vista or some third party wireless program and software?
 
To BadBigBen,
The tray icon for the wireless connections contain no such animal in any of my Vista computers.

To Linney,
Everything you suggested was previously checked and found to be running.

I spent a lot of time and effort trying to figure this out before asking for help. As Ben said, it doesn't make sense.

A "repair" install was available in XP but seems to be unavailable with Vista. If I am mistaken and there is a way to reinstall the OS without disturbing the installed programs I will appreciate knowing how.
 
The method to perform a Repair Install is outlined in this thread. Just make sure you are repairing the correct ServicePack version with any repair media that you use. Good idea to make a backup of the whole partition first.

"set association troubles in vista"

Or this one.

How To Perform a Repair Installation For Vista
 
Ugg! Linksys has buggy drivers. Ok first, do this have windows manage the network connection and not the linksys manager that starts up too.
an alt you can test is set in properties the Linksys manager and have it "Run as Administrator" in compatability mode.
This may cause an issue with Defender not allowing it to start with windows.
if you do the first option you should disable the linksys manager to start at boot.

ok have to go...those are my 2 bits in this thread [bigglasses]
 
To Firewolfrl,

Windows does manage the network connection. Linksys manager is not even installed on this computer. The only thing from Linksys that is installed is the driver for the USB adapter. I doubt that Linksys has anything to do with this problem as it will connect manually. It's the inability to connect automatically that is the problem. Thanks, anyway.

To Linney,

I am aware of the methods described in the two links you provided and tried to do the repair install several days ago. However, after several attempts, an upgrade install is not available with the genuine MS Vista disk nor with the disk slipstreamed with SP1. A clean install is all that is available. When I say several attempts, I mean that I tried with both disks run from Windows and from booting with them. No dice.

By the way, I always have a clone of my C drive on another hard drive. I use Ghost to make the clone and do so at a week to ten day interval. However, I do not have a clone of this particular computer that does not contain this automatic connection problem.
 
Any reason offered as to why the attempted repairs failed? Was the Upgrade option available to you in the first place, sometimes insufficient hard drive space may block the Upgrade option being available.

I suppose if the Wireless problem is enough of a worry to you, then the next step would be a clean install?

I wish I could find the Registry location for the setting that controls the automatic connection of the Wireless then we could see what that is set for, perhaps someone knows the location?

I did see a comment in a web site that mentioned that the setting in Folder Options/ View, "Show preview handlers in Preview Pane" caused some effect on the Wireless Adapter being visible. If I remember, he had it unchecked, then when he checked the box his Adapter showed up. I only mention that as it is clutching at straws time.
 
This may be one set of registry settings to examine:
HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\WZCSVC\Parameters\Interfaces\GUID
This key contains wireless network information for adapter using Windows Wireless Zero Configuration Service.
Under the GUID subkey, there are binary registry values named Static#0000, Static#0001, etc. (depending on the
number of listed SSID) which correspond to the respective list of SSID in ?Preferred Networks? box in Wireless
Network Connection configuration (Carvey, 2005e). The registry value contains the SSID name in binary form. If
registry value ActiveSettings contains an SSID name, it may signify last connected SSID. However, the result is
not consistent when tested. If suspect connect to wireless networks using other 3rd party program that is usually
bundled with the network adapter, instead of using Wireless Zero Configuration, no trace is left on this key.

BTW, this is from a facinatng document about what may be discovered by CSI types:


[profile]

To Paraphrase:"The Help you get is proportional to the Help you give.."
 
As to the "no such animal", I was running W7 at the time and assumed that it was the same as in VISTA...

To add a wireless computer running Windows Vista or Windows XP by using a USB flash drive

If you have your settings saved to a USB flash drive, you can use the flash drive to add computers to your network.

1. Log on to the computer.
2. Plug the USB flash drive into a USB port on the computer.
3. For a computer running Windows Vista, in the AutoPlay dialog box, click Wireless Network Setup Wizard.
– or –
For a computer running Windows XP, in the USB flash drive dialog box, click Wireless Network Setup Wizard.

You might be prompted to restart the computer.

Note - To save your settings to a USB flash drive, do this:

a. Open Network by clicking the Start button Picture of the Start button, and then clicking Network.
b. Click Add a wireless device, and then follow the steps in the wizard.
Source: Add a device or computer to a network

Ben
"If it works don't fix it! If it doesn't use a sledgehammer..."
How to ask a question, when posting them to a professional forum.
Only ask questions with yes/no answers if you want "yes" or "no"
 
The only thing I haven't seen here is, is there any possibility that the wireless device is bad?????? Have you tried using this device on another pc and does it automatically connect???? have you tried a different device in this pc, if possible?
 
We're grasping at straws here folks, might as well call it done as I had covered all of the above suggestions before I placed my initial plea. Let's call it case closed. I'll either figure it out myself or simply use a clone from another computer that does not exhibit this behavior. Thank you all for trying.
 
Wow. Just wow.
With an attitude like that, perhaps next time you grace us with your presence, you might post a more complete description of the problem, together with an exhaustive list of the steps you've taken so that none of we mere mortals wastes your precious time with valueless suggestions.

soi la, soi carré
 
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