I have researched on cdonts on the forum and found a lot of great tips. I realize I do not have cdonts on my computer for I am using Win98 and PWS at home. I am doing contract work for some people from home strange part they will not let me in the office to work there to put stuff together for them I know what?! Anyway I need to know I believe they have a SMTP Server with IIS 4.0 on Windows NT 4 Server. I have written a few scripts and everything worked successfully. I now have a project that is a form which I have made before and no problems there. Its got to do two things when the user submits the form it needs to write to an Access 2000 database and email a html form to a person's email. Now I am wondering how to start for I know how to insert but where to get the emailing function and to test it. I have seen the posts for ASP email and downloading it as I write this post. But is there not like some ASP sites that I could write the code and get it to work to me and then just submit the project to the person I work for and make the small changes. Any suggestions or tips be greatly appreciated.