Need advice/ tips on moving a Partner to a new building

[Guest_imported]

I will be moving a Partner system to a new location and need to know what to do! Specifically, What do I do with the new location regarding station set up and programming? Is category 3 cabling sufficient? I will be building new plant for 6 hone sets, 1 fax, 1 credit card verification, and 1 computer using ISDN. I can handle the wiring but I am in need of some sound and solid advice on how to get the system set up when the wiring/plant is complete. Any expert up to the challenge of a crash tutorial will be a hero.

 

[technickle]

I just moved a Partner system today. My background is as a PC guru and CIS college professor. Phone systems aren't too complicated. I wired this building with 100% CAT5e for phone and LAN. I suggest you do the same(who knows what the future will hold). Already, the extra pairs have paid off as the customer has already requested more jacks in some offices. I didn't need to run more cable, I just unraveled the unused pairs quickly adding new jacks.

Because the system has a backup feature and internal battery, you should not lose any settings. Add a comshare for the fax and credit card ver, or just share the line.

Have fun!

 

[chipthephoneman]

I agree with most of Technikle advice. However, I'm a trained telecom technician and I would never advise to use spare pairs from another cable. Yes, technically it will work but it is NOT the way it is suppose to be done. Adding another cable run is not that difficult and not very expensive. Also, if its a ACS Partner, simply do a backup and power down when ready and you will not lose any translations. Be sure that the batteries are working, just in case! Good luck. Let me know if I can help any further.

 

[daronwilson]

Good advice. Backup the system before you move. With the power on you can change the backup batteries if you need to, they should hold programming for a few hours easy to facilitate the move.

As for wiring, there are at least two ways. One is the standards compliant method which is one Cat5e to each jack, terminate all four pairs. This is the ultimate system. If money is not a concern, and you anticipate your needs well, this system is the way to go. Two is the real world. In this wiring scheme one does his best to comply with standards in the initial building wiring and installation. However, often there is a need for services quickly or cheaply or temporarily down the road. Robbing pairs from the cable is not the proper way at all, and many times can come back to haunt you as well. However, it does work and there is nothing electrically wrong with it. The partner is a pretty solid system. I service several sites that were installed BY ATT themselves and all run on old Quad four conductor wiring.

If you back up, and the batteries hold, you just need to plug the people into the same port they were before (assuming it is the same people). Programming is pretty easy if you have the book, even a bit easier with the remote access software and a modem.

I usually make a list of everyone's extension numbers, all the phone numbers going into it, etc. before moving.

As for fax and cc term, the partner does support some fax switching depending on the release of software you have. Nice thing of course is that any port can be a single line port as well, so if you have enough ports you can drop fax and cc terminal on a port, then you can truely share the line without crashing and no extra add on box.

As for using spare pairs, if you do so only at the jack it is easy to figure out and easy to see at the backboard. My local telco tries to be quick so I find 25 pair and 4 pair cables slit with a knife, a pair pulled out and beaned on to extend a phone. Totally bad wiring practice. It is only my opinion, based on my experience and education...I am always willing to learn, educate me!
Daron J. Wilson, RCDD
daron.wilson@lhmorris.com

 

[upstateny]

there is no problem with using spare pairs for modems fax another phone etc - have been doing this for years and have never seen a problem - as for moving your system i would think you do all the wiring and either move system or hire someone to move and reconfigure - often you could make changes or get recommendations from a pro thatw ould pay for their bill

 

[Faffy]

Sounds good everyone!! But, the one thing i can't get over is that someone would actually say phone systems aren't that complicated!!!