Need a Site Template for Jobsite Function

[abrogard]

I'm only capable of doing easy html coding but a friend who thinks because I'm in the business I must know everything wants a website for jobseeking/finding. Like jobseekers post resumes (cv's) and read jobsavailable and respond to them and employers post jobs and read resumes and respond to them.
And someone (employers)gets locked out unless they join up and pay money.
Well, in the beginning I think this guy would be happy enough to have a free-for-all-comers site.
I can imagine some of the things that need to be coded up but it's beyond me how to do it.
I've trolled around looking for downloadable website templates and there's heaps available but when you get there it seems they are only offering almost functionless pages.. (with an incredible variety of designs).
Can anyone please help me in this search?
regards,
ab

 

[DaRNCaT]

It sounds like you want something written in ASP or PHP, I'd go looking for a PHP script, as you can get free ones, you should find the functionality you require, then you can change the look and feel to suit.

try looking here

http://www.hotscripts.com/PHP/Scripts_and_Programs/index.html

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Sometimes, when my code just won't behave, I take it outside and make it listen to britney spears music, and when it comes back it's really well behaved. I wonder if it's suffering from post tramatic stress syndrome now..

 

[ChrisHunt]

I think you should tell your friend that if he's going to go into such a competitive area as online job marketing, he's going to need technical people who know what they're doing. Slinging something together from a few templates is never going to cut it.

-- Chris Hunt
Webmaster & Tragedian
Extra Connections Ltd

 

[abrogard]

Thanks guys.

I just got sucked into writing a great long response that came perilously close to being a personal attack.

All because I didn't like the tone of Chris Hunt's reply.

Temper, temper. Doesn't take much, does it.

I'm a technical person who knows what he's doing, Chris.

Thanks Darncat.

 

[ChrisHirst]

Hmmm! So one of these is incorrect then

I'm only capable of doing easy html coding but a friend who thinks because I'm in the business I must know everything wants a website for jobseeking/finding. Like jobseekers post resumes (cv's) and read jobsavailable and respond to them and employers post jobs and read resumes and respond to them.

I'm a technical person who knows what he's doing, Chris.

Chris.

Indifference will be the downfall of mankind, but who cares?
Woo Hoo! the cobblers kids get new shoes.
People Counting Systems

So long, and thanks for all the fish.

 

[lesterlachcik]

lester (leszek) lachcik 03-06-2005

Dear abrogard;

A jobseekers site in simple html/xhtml is a possibility that can be easily accomplished using "easy html" if necessary. You do not have to rely on sophisticated scripting languages and complex databases to get you started. All you need is a working knowledge of html/xhtml, dhtml and css. In particular you need to integrate these three components and make your own workable template. (In this sense every website and every web creation becomes a template as soon as it is created.)

First, you need to create your site architecture: (1.)home.html -- main content with links to other pages, (2.)jobpostings.html -- where employers submit job postings with links to ((2a.)job1.html, (2b.)job2.html, (2c.)job3.html etc.,) (3.)submitjobposting.html -- where employers submit job postings, (4.)reviews/opinions.html -- to post reviews about job postings and other opinions, which are linked to ((4a.)review1.html, (4b.)opinion1.html, (4c.)review2.html, (4d.)opinion2.html etc.,) (5.)submitopinion/review.html, and (6.)contactus.html.

Second, you need to create look and feel of your jobseekers site. You must develop your storyboard and design your layout; colors and images you plan to incorporate in your pages. Once you have the storyboard and the entire layout ready adjusting colors and images to your taste is very easy indeed. Of course you might have to use digital camera and take few photographs and then make some jpegs out of these that can be pluged into your pages .....and you are almost on your way.

Third, you are now ready to create your html pages. You can use html tables or cascading style sheets (css) to position your images and your written content in accordance with your original storyboard and layout. The main written content consists of links to other pages like; job postings, individual job descriptions, submit job postings page, submit job reviews/opinions page, and jobreviews/opinions pages etc., Here you must incorporate html/xhtml forms to collect the information from submitters and send it via email to your email address. Again, a little DHTML=dynamic html (using html and java script to manipulate cascading style sheets) can add a little dynamism to your main navigation scheme, as well as create a bit of show-off in you pages.

Fourth, site operation. Upload your pages to your hosting server and you're ready to go. Employers post their job postings via forms in your html pages where they send them to your email address. Job reviews and opinions are also submitted via html forms in your html pages and are sent to your email address too. All you have to do then is read all the job postings, job reviews and opinions and decide whether to accept them into you site or whether to reject them. You use your email account to send apporval or rejection notifications to all the submitters. All the new job postings, job posting reviews and opinions you incorporate into your new html pages that you create accordingly. All the new pages have same consistent look and feel, and design layout. They are linked to the main pages to facilitate overall site navigation. Finally, you modify your main html pages and add new links to the new job posting html pages you have created from where site visitors can follow and navigate to. That's it!

There it is. If it sounds boring it should not be a surprise, most web processes are. However, your friend's specifications can all be accomplished using "easy html". But lets not be too naive, if you go through this process you have not wasted your time per se. You can esily use this process as a stepping stone to a better understanding and venturing into a more complex structures achieved using sophisticated scripting languages and database back bone. Hey, once you conceptualize your project well, you can easily realize that any site forum such as this forum could be easily converted into a workable jobseekers site where employers submit their job positngs and employees view them, apply for them, and post reviews of their own. Naturally, all the processes are more automated and stored in a database, but that's what scripting and using databases is all about.

A reasonable forum template that can be converted into jobseekers site can be located at :

http://www.chipmunk-scripts.com/page.php?ID=8

Hope this helps. Cheer! or :^)

lester (leszek) lachcik

 

[ChrisHunt]

Sorry, abrogard, I maybe should have expressed myself more diplomatically. I didn't mean that you are incompetent in general, but that you're "only capable of doing easy html coding". I'm sure all of us the business are used to being assumed to be the world expert on anything remotely IT-related by our nearest and dearest. I'm just suggesting that you point out to your "friend who thinks because I'm in the business I must know everything" that this task falls outside your specific area of expertise.

If you want to take it on as a learning process, that's great. There's no better way to learn than having a real project to get your teeth into. But both you and your friend need to realise that this will be a long haul - building such a site will require quite a steep learning curve from "easy html". If your friend's looking to make money from it, (s)he'd probably be better off paying somebody with the necessary experience/expertise.

The database-free approach suggested by lesterlachcik might work for a small number of jobs, but if the site takes off at all, you'll soon get very tired of turning emails into web pages all the time. Personally, I wouldn't dream of trying to do something like this wthout a database to drive it all from. Ideally, employers should be able to register their jobs, and job seekers able to register their details without you having to do anything. That way the site is working away making money even whe you're asleep!

Mind you, don't plan on buying that luxury yacht just yet. There are lots of well-known, well-resourced job sites out there already. I think a new one is going to really struggle to make an real inroads into the marketplace. Good luck trying though...

-- Chris Hunt
Webmaster & Tragedian
Extra Connections Ltd

 

[abrogard]

Thank you guys. Darncat, that site is good. I've downloaded something but I haven't looked at it yet - it's been a busy day.

Thank you very much, Lester, for your well thought out blow-by-blow description and for the URL, which I haven't yet checked out.

I do tend to agree with Chris Hunt inasmuch as I'd like a site that looks after itself as much as possible.

It seems to me my core need is for a page - a form I suppose - that accepts user input and writes part of it (the name of the jobseeker and his one line description of what he's looking for) along with the time and date to a list - and makes a link out of it.

The link then goes to what could be a whole page dedicated to that guy's resume, or to a database with it all held in one field for an ad hoc freeform thing or numerous fields for a more disciplined approach.

You can only follow this link if you have permission.

Same technology from the other end. Employers post jobs and the first line or two gets timed and dated and written to the top of a list and the detail gets written elsewhere - approachable by clicking on the 'first line or two' that are 'written to the top of a list'.

That's the essence of the whole thing I've got in mind.

If anyone can fast track me to such a page then that's great.

It could well be I've already got it in what I downloaded from Darncat's site or it could be I'll get it from the site Lester's URL points to. And it could be neither of them will provide it.

It could be that the small challenge of putting up the code for such a page might interest some of the members of this forum.

Either way I hope everyone is happy and enjoying life.

And thanks again, guys.

ab