This doesn't surprise me a bit coming from Orrin Hatch, but...I still don't quite know what to say...
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benlinkknilneb
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<shakes head, sighs>
Next we'll pass a law to punish people who run red lights by running over them with cars...
Next we'll pass a law to punish people who run red lights by running over them with cars...
SteveTheGeek
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Makes me think we ought to review Orrin's office IT infrastructure and make sure there's no copyrighted content on it. 
Or is he only talking about copyrights that RIAA/MPAA pay him to care about?
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Or is he only talking about copyrights that RIAA/MPAA pay him to care about?-Steve
benlinkknilneb
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C'mon Steve, that's not even a real question... you *know* he wouldn't give a crap if his pocket wasn't being padded...
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BJCooperIT
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His premise is that you are using your own computer to download. What would the ramifications be if you were using a computer from work or a public library?
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benlinkknilneb
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<stands up after falling out of his chair laughing>
In all seriousness... I can't quite believe someone would make a statement like that. It seems that each day I find another bit of evidence that Orwell was only a little premature...
In all seriousness... I can't quite believe someone would make a statement like that. It seems that each day I find another bit of evidence that Orwell was only a little premature...
Great, that makes sense. And then all it would take to break someones computer would be to download exactly one song, then start emailing to people. I meanif people are stupid enough to open virus attachements, how many will open an email that is named after famous speeches, etc. Boom! There goes another innocent computer...
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benlinkknilneb
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...So how does he propose to determine that I'm downloading a copyrighted song?
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Simple. All pc's sold after a certain data contain monitoring software. All pc's existing before that date must be submitted to central service centers for modification. Those who refuse too submit will be eradicated.
Uh...seriously...you know, a great question, which points to the utter absurdity of his proposition. I mean, the legal ramifications or that which Hatch poses are huge. While the concept of what he puts forth is indeed frightening, the battle that it would touch off if it were to amount to anything more than Orrin's wanking would be something to see.
I mean...we might as well open up phone lines to scrutiny as well. Who needs that court order after all? Who needs probable cause? (you know, at this moment, Ashcroft's probably high-fiving Orrin...)
Uh...seriously...you know, a great question, which points to the utter absurdity of his proposition. I mean, the legal ramifications or that which Hatch poses are huge. While the concept of what he puts forth is indeed frightening, the battle that it would touch off if it were to amount to anything more than Orrin's wanking would be something to see.
I mean...we might as well open up phone lines to scrutiny as well. Who needs that court order after all? Who needs probable cause? (you know, at this moment, Ashcroft's probably high-fiving Orrin...)
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Don't let your words go nowhere. Email the guy :
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Thanks, xutopia,...already have but thumbs up for posting the link. (I have this persistent twitch that has me cranking off letters and petitions to legislators on a regular basis. Hey...gotta keep their staff busy...) Hope everyone will join us as our names are inscribed on "the list."
Here is the letter I sent in :
Mr Hatch,
I totally agree with your statement that people should have their computers destroyed. I believe you should take the idea further.
- Take a penny out of the water fountain to feed your kid three times and we break your legs.
- Steal cable and we burn down your house.
- No tag on your dog... He's dead.
- Sex before marriage, there goes your [...].
-Businesses bribe people like you to write laws that benefit them. We use the business owners as make believe terrorist for military anti-terrorist training. We could have a few commandos blow up their cars or something. It'd be fun.
-A politicians accepts a bribe, his bank account, stocks and bonds as well as overseas accounts he doesn't pay tax on are all seized and redistributed to the general public.
I really like your style Mr Hatch. I believe we should see more of it.
Regards,
Gary Haran
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Mr Hatch,
I totally agree with your statement that people should have their computers destroyed. I believe you should take the idea further.
- Take a penny out of the water fountain to feed your kid three times and we break your legs.
- Steal cable and we burn down your house.
- No tag on your dog... He's dead.
- Sex before marriage, there goes your [...].
-Businesses bribe people like you to write laws that benefit them. We use the business owners as make believe terrorist for military anti-terrorist training. We could have a few commandos blow up their cars or something. It'd be fun.
-A politicians accepts a bribe, his bank account, stocks and bonds as well as overseas accounts he doesn't pay tax on are all seized and redistributed to the general public.
I really like your style Mr Hatch. I believe we should see more of it.
Regards,
Gary Haran
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benlinkknilneb
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Well said. You know, though, they're not necessarily bribing him... the article DOES say that he's a composer who made 18 grand in royalties last year. Sounds like he's just being greedy... heck, (I'm a college student, working as an intern) I didn't even MAKE $18,000 last year...
xutopia
Has anyone ever accussed you of being subtle?
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There is one thing I have learnt about politicians: When they start with the extreme stuff it is only to set the scene for a comparitively "softer" version.
So Mr Hatch "wants" to destroy PC's, but what would he settle for?, what is it he is actually angling for?
Here's a selection (from my imagination);
1) Termination of internet access in the home.
2) Restricted access to "public" internet points (which means a form of regulation would be needed ;-) ).
3) Seizure of PC.
4) Harware/software incompatibility with "un-signed" music.
I am sure that there are people with more insights than I have on this issue.
All the best.
Has anyone ever accussed you of being subtle?
All
There is one thing I have learnt about politicians: When they start with the extreme stuff it is only to set the scene for a comparitively "softer" version.
So Mr Hatch "wants" to destroy PC's, but what would he settle for?, what is it he is actually angling for?
Here's a selection (from my imagination);
1) Termination of internet access in the home.
2) Restricted access to "public" internet points (which means a form of regulation would be needed ;-) ).
3) Seizure of PC.
4) Harware/software incompatibility with "un-signed" music.
I am sure that there are people with more insights than I have on this issue.
All the best.
sleipnir214
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Just keep in mind, folks, that this was Orrin Hatch making an off-hand comment, not introducing a bill for consideration as a new law.
Hatch has a bad habit of making scandalous remarks like the one under discussion here. He rarely makes any effort to turn these comments into law.
He's just stirring the pot. If you make a big deal about it, the publicity will just reward his bad behavior.
Want the best answers? Ask the best questions: TANSTAAFL!
Hatch has a bad habit of making scandalous remarks like the one under discussion here. He rarely makes any effort to turn these comments into law.
He's just stirring the pot. If you make a big deal about it, the publicity will just reward his bad behavior.
Want the best answers? Ask the best questions: TANSTAAFL!
PCLine,
"subtle". I never go east to see the sun set!
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"subtle". I never go east to see the sun set!
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