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Mitel announces acquisition of ShoreTel 2
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amriddle01
Programmer
Mitel took Avaya's place as the major player years ago, Avaya are already on a downward spiral, so this will not help but probably not make much difference either 
Mitel tries to buy all competitors
Avaya tried that and then ran out of cash flow just to have chapter 11 lingering and killing their reputation.
Oh well we will see where all that goes. Maybe we all have to change jobs or at least hardware we work on.
Joe W.
FHandw, ACSS (SME)
"This is the end of the world, make sure to buy your T-shirt before it is too late"
Original expression of my daughter
Avaya tried that and then ran out of cash flow just to have chapter 11 lingering and killing their reputation.
Oh well we will see where all that goes. Maybe we all have to change jobs or at least hardware we work on.
Joe W.
FHandw, ACSS (SME)
"This is the end of the world, make sure to buy your T-shirt before it is too late"
Original expression of my daughter
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crumthwacket
Vendor
Ain't it the truth.
It's especially good news to see the copier guy, burglar alarm guy, and the big-box stores (ie Costco here in the US) are all competing against us.
Fortunately there is still a large installed base to support, but frankly, I'm happy I'm closer to the end of my career than at the beginning.
It's especially good news to see the copier guy, burglar alarm guy, and the big-box stores (ie Costco here in the US) are all competing against us.
Fortunately there is still a large installed base to support, but frankly, I'm happy I'm closer to the end of my career than at the beginning.
I'm in a tricky situation, I started my career in 97 when the PBX still ruled the World, put everything into Nortel, that fell apart in 2011, went Mitel 3300 and then Avaya IPO in about 2013. Looks like I've consistently made bad choices! I really like IPO as well, but cloud is just taking over all the SMEs here in the UK. It's progress I guess. I'm doing more routing and switching stuff these days, hopefully that'll see me out...
tdmneil
let us know where you are going next so we can avoid doing that same mistake
I think we will be fine but have to develop with the ever changing world of communications. I started with rotary dial and then went via touch tones, PRI onto SIP. Learning gets harder with age but hey I hope it keeps me young, LOL.
Joe W.
FHandw, ACSS (SME)
"This is the end of the world, make sure to buy your T-shirt before it is too late"
Original expression of my daughter
let us know where you are going next so we can avoid doing that same mistake
I think we will be fine but have to develop with the ever changing world of communications. I started with rotary dial and then went via touch tones, PRI onto SIP. Learning gets harder with age but hey I hope it keeps me young, LOL.
Joe W.
FHandw, ACSS (SME)
"This is the end of the world, make sure to buy your T-shirt before it is too late"
Original expression of my daughter
intrigrant
Systems Engineer
What are you afraid of? I have seen brands come and go, large and small, and we still sell and install telecom systems, regardless of the brand.
And we will be for the next decade.
And we will be for the next decade.
fieldtechonIR
IS-IT--Management
Go look at Yealink phones, that's what you should fear. The days of proprietary phones are coming to an end. I don't see much innovation on the handsets from Avaya. If Avaya had made an agnostic phone like Cisco and so many others they would not be in situation they are in or at least they would be better positioned. The direction of "phones" is less features, streamlined use and easy installation. Avaya doesn't have any of that. Avaya's biggest concern should be Avaya.
intrigrant
Systems Engineer
The youth has the future, all kids around me use their phone for social media, games, photos and movies.
If they make a call once a week I'll inform the newspapers as a revolution is about to happen.
Said that, telephones are a dead end no matter how fancy or "agnostic" they are.
Avaya has a keen look on that by investing in new techniques for social media and not in sleek "agnostic" phones.
Communications are evolving, don't miss the boat by staring at those fancy Yealink (or any other brand) phones.
If they make a call once a week I'll inform the newspapers as a revolution is about to happen.
Said that, telephones are a dead end no matter how fancy or "agnostic" they are.
Avaya has a keen look on that by investing in new techniques for social media and not in sleek "agnostic" phones.
Communications are evolving, don't miss the boat by staring at those fancy Yealink (or any other brand) phones.
fieldtechonIR
IS-IT--Management
These types of phones are the boat.
I do find it funny talking about phones going away... it use to be US was on par or semi close with most other countries technologies but I still take more analog phone calls then SIP and PRI combined. People still want line appearances and they still cling to the "well my last pbx did this" thought process. Maybe I can ride out the US backwards way of thinking till I retire... I am waaaaaay out on that sadly.
The truth is just an excuse for lack of imagination.
The truth is just an excuse for lack of imagination.
Yes some clients are getting rid of their "tin" but not everyone.
I've just installed 1 IP Office and 2 E-MetroTel UCx systems in small businesses. IP Office replaced a Partner in an Orthodontics Office. Then an E-MetroTel UCx went into a brewery that has multiple buildings and needed to be interconnected, owner didn't want to do hosted. Another UCx went into a medium sized design firm that replaced 4 line standalone analog ATT phones. Both clients wanted to utilize their existing Ethernet network while providing more professional calling services to their callers.
And I must admit, the brewery is staffed mainly by millennial's who have told me how much they appreciate a phone system that works and looks professional. I installed the Avaya 1165E sets there.
The Orthodontics office liked the new look of the 9608 sets compared to their older Partner sets.
Lastly, the design firm is young, all millennial's and Generation Y and they have given me good feedback about how much professional they feel to have their own voicemail box, nice 1140E telephone sets on their desk, and most of all having an intercom and paging for the office.
So not everyone is looking to get rid of premised base systems. I gave each provider differences between hosted and premise based and they chose premised base.
Just my experiences.
Joseph Sus Jr. Nortel Emetrotel Consultant
I've just installed 1 IP Office and 2 E-MetroTel UCx systems in small businesses. IP Office replaced a Partner in an Orthodontics Office. Then an E-MetroTel UCx went into a brewery that has multiple buildings and needed to be interconnected, owner didn't want to do hosted. Another UCx went into a medium sized design firm that replaced 4 line standalone analog ATT phones. Both clients wanted to utilize their existing Ethernet network while providing more professional calling services to their callers.
And I must admit, the brewery is staffed mainly by millennial's who have told me how much they appreciate a phone system that works and looks professional. I installed the Avaya 1165E sets there.
The Orthodontics office liked the new look of the 9608 sets compared to their older Partner sets.
Lastly, the design firm is young, all millennial's and Generation Y and they have given me good feedback about how much professional they feel to have their own voicemail box, nice 1140E telephone sets on their desk, and most of all having an intercom and paging for the office.
So not everyone is looking to get rid of premised base systems. I gave each provider differences between hosted and premise based and they chose premised base.
Just my experiences.
Joseph Sus Jr. Nortel Emetrotel Consultant
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