iceman2654
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Do any of you out there think it is possible to make an operating system that can handle BOTH windows linux/unix without problems or emulation. Or just combine them both into one neat package?
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I don't understand what you mean by there are a lot of things that use .Net that are not part of an application. If this was the case...as you stated above that all current MS products use .Net, then all PC's would need the .Net framework...so this can't be true.
dilettante
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Well a few things are beginning to trickle out now... by which I mean non-trivial desktop .Net applications for the masses. Here is one:
Paint.Net
Paint.Net
sleipnir214
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Hehe... an operating system that does a blue-screen core-dump.
Just as I wouldn't use a wrench to beat on a nail, operating systems have their uses.
Email / Web Server with PHP and Perl? -- Linux
Office Productivity? -- Exchange
Easy-to-develop dynamic web content? -- ASP / IIS
Anything mission critical (banks, research, etc.) -- AS/400
Tire Chocks / Boat Anchors? -- Mac
... of course, these are just my opinions, and I'm sure that people could argue each point. I'm not making this statement to get into a religious discussion... just pointing out that it depends on what you want to do.
At home, I have two XP workstations (mainly because Cakewalk runs on windows, and I like the interoperability of the office suite), a Linux box for web services and e-mail, and a 2003 server to learn Active Directory and do IIS development.
They all have their uses.
Just my $.02
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Just as I wouldn't use a wrench to beat on a nail, operating systems have their uses.
Email / Web Server with PHP and Perl? -- Linux
Office Productivity? -- Exchange
Easy-to-develop dynamic web content? -- ASP / IIS
Anything mission critical (banks, research, etc.) -- AS/400
Tire Chocks / Boat Anchors? -- Mac
... of course, these are just my opinions, and I'm sure that people could argue each point. I'm not making this statement to get into a religious discussion... just pointing out that it depends on what you want to do.
At home, I have two XP workstations (mainly because Cakewalk runs on windows, and I like the interoperability of the office suite), a Linux box for web services and e-mail, and a 2003 server to learn Active Directory and do IIS development.
They all have their uses.
Just my $.02
"In order to start solving a problem, one must first identify it's owner." --Me
--Greg
dilettante
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sleipnir214,
Better than most of what I see out there otherwise. Mostly "Hello World" and flawed chat clients/servers.
36K lines of code approaches "non-trivial" more than much of what I've seen so far.
Better than most of what I see out there otherwise. Mostly "Hello World" and flawed chat clients/servers.
36K lines of code approaches "non-trivial" more than much of what I've seen so far.
sleipnir214
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36k lines of code"?
Where'd you get hold of the source to Paint.net?
Anyway, I'll stipulate that Paint.Net is less[/] trivial than a "Hello World" program. But unless it has more functionality than the old paint.exe program, I don't think I'd describe it as non-trivial without qualification.
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Where'd you get hold of the source to Paint.net?
Anyway, I'll stipulate that Paint.Net is less[/] trivial than a "Hello World" program. But unless it has more functionality than the old paint.exe program, I don't think I'd describe it as non-trivial without qualification.
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iceman2654
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maybe I should change the title into a "is .net useless or not?
dilettante
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Nope, no source here, just the blog:
It supports layers, image acquisition, and a small handfull of effects (blur, desaturate, etc.) but basically it's a paint program.
It supports layers, image acquisition, and a small handfull of effects (blur, desaturate, etc.) but basically it's a paint program.
infinitelo
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A while back (sorry no link) I watched the dot net show
at msdn and the guest claimed m$ was "eating there own dog food", the ide was written in dot net, I would call that a non trivial application. also, i would not be suprised to learn that office 2003 was dot net based.
if it is to be it's up to me
at msdn and the guest claimed m$ was "eating there own dog food", the ide was written in dot net, I would call that a non trivial application. also, i would not be suprised to learn that office 2003 was dot net based.
if it is to be it's up to me
dilettante
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Nope, Office 2003 is all native code, no CLR required.
I can't help but add a comment here about the dot net hoopla.
Dot net was designed for the convenience of MS customers, not for MS OS developers.
Things like Java VM, .NET, compilers, etc, are never developed in the same language they are selling. There is simply no need to do it when you are trying to maximally exploit the computer architecture, so that the user won't have to sweat it out themselves.
All those tools are designed to make life easier for those that use them. That's why you pay big bucks to get them.
Dimandja
Dot net was designed for the convenience of MS customers, not for MS OS developers.
Things like Java VM, .NET, compilers, etc, are never developed in the same language they are selling. There is simply no need to do it when you are trying to maximally exploit the computer architecture, so that the user won't have to sweat it out themselves.
All those tools are designed to make life easier for those that use them. That's why you pay big bucks to get them.
Dimandja
Rhys666
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Dimandja,
Actually you're a little wrong wrong here. The .Net framework was written in c#
Rhys
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