Thanks Mitelguy,
We've opted out of the 3000/5000 (Inter-Tel) so far.
Never say never though...
We ran the numbers and for our smaller SMB customers there was no monetary advantage to do that over our other existing line of product.
To Irwin and tlpeter, yup... Gateways gateways... To me it will be much more comfy using familiar Mitel product rather than using Dialogic and such. We recieved a Dialogic SIP to ONS gateway for another product/test. Wow... another bizarre learning curve... Didn't really like it at all.
Dave
You can't believe anything you read... unless of course it's this.
Folks, we have no choice with the way this market is headed. For those of us that continue to sell phones and "PBXes" our day is almost over - and Avaya is going to mess that up for us.
We have no choice but to make our money on services and software licensing.
I would encourage all VARs to learn as much about data switching/routing as possible - the ones that can install Mitel software and applications in a highly skilled field (really the data world) will be the only ones that survive.
Trust me - AVAYA IS GOING TO EAT OUR LUNCH. Just like the fat lady at the buffet, make sure you get up there first and learn where the good stuff is at and take it!
I do Avaya too and they still also need gateways but from the latest release the gateway is not needed anymore for ipphone to register to
It is a bit the same situation
I see it like computers
Some use citrix or thin clients but there will be company's who do not like that and will use a normal pc
It is just a step forward (or back if you like) and we need to keep on track so learning is the only way
ACS - Implement IP Office
ACA - Implement IP Telephony -- ACA - Design IP Telephony
ACA - Voice Services Management
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Women and cats can do as they please and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea!
"Upgraded one system yesterday from 9.0.0.41 to MCD4.0. One problem with IP trunking; couldn't put calls on hold or transfer. Product support found opton DPNSS_EARLY was disabled. Unable to re-enable through ESM but was able to go through CLI to turn it back on."
Do you recall how you checked this/resolved it via the CLI?
(we think we might have a similar issue)
Out of interest, has anyone else encountered this?
it was out yesterday...im looking on the downloads page and it show released as of 9/29/09. but this shows PR1....not sure if there is a difference between PR1 and UR1. maybe some of the vets can shed some light on that lingo.
I've always understood PR to be Patch Release (Fixes stuff but no new features) and UR to be Upgrade Release (Fixes stuff but also contains new features)
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Occam's Razor - All things being equal, the simplest solution is the right one.
I recall seeing a tech note on the Knowledge Base, something about the new 5320 phones maybe still not working. Prolly not an issue unless you bought some 5320s
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