LCR tips or docs

[heathersuzanne]

Hi Everyone,

I have an S8300 in chile with a remote gateway in Brazil. Some of the users in chile have customers located in Brazil, outside of the Brazil PBX. Currently they dial the country code and number to make a LD call to Brazil to call these customers but sice Brazil and Chile are really 1 system, shouldnt they just be able to dial numbers in Brazil as local numbers and route out over the Brazil trunks? anyone have tips on how to do this or can point me to a doc? Thanks!!
Happy Friday!

Heather Suzanne

 

[captainnick666]

you can insert the country & city code in the route pattern so all they dial is the number

 

[heathersuzanne]

If I insert the country and city codes in the route pattern wont they still be dialing long distance? Wouldn't I just be manipulating the dialed number string so that the caller 'thinks' they are calling locally?

I would like to actually allow the users in Chile to call Brazil numbers over the Brazil trunks, as if it was local, so we could avoid the international charges. Please advise if inserting country code and city code would give this desired effect. Thanks!!!

 

[captainnick666]

no it wont.

do you have a tie line between the sites? if you route your traffic over the tie line & make the brazil side make the calls, then they will be local

 

[heathersuzanne]

Hi captainnick666,

No, right now I dont have any tie line between the sites. Am I correct in my thinking that to set up a tie line I'd need a circuit pack and also to program a trunk group? If there is a way to do this without having to purchase another Circuit Pack for the Gateway I'd prefer that(I dont even think I have another open slot in the Chile Gateway for a pack). Isn't there anything tricky I can do in the ARS tables to allow Chile to call brazil as if they were in Brazil themselves? Thanksfor your responses!!!

Heather suzanne

 

[captainnick666]

the short answer is no. without a way for the call to go through Brazil (is it Brazil or Brasil, i always get confused) then you cant avoid the LD cost.

 

[heathersuzanne]

darn, I was hoping this was an easy, cheap thing to do via ARS since Brazil and Chile are the same system sharing the same configs. Oh well, never hurts to ask...

I doubt they'll want to buy another gateway and CP for this.

 

[captainnick666]

you dont need another gateway, just put a ds1 card in brazil & one in Chile, order a point to point circuit, can even be IP

 

[heathersuzanne]

Unfortunatly, I have no more open slots for cards in the 2 gateways

No other way to do this?

 

[captainnick666]

not that i know of. if you do IP trunking you dont need the cards, you would just need IP connectivity between the sites

 

[heathersuzanne]

IP connectivity I do have. Brazil communicates to Chile for up to 2 calls using IGAR. It was our first foray into VoIP. Do you know where I can find out how to do IP trunking, or is is somethn you have done and can screenshot your setup? thanks a million!!!!

 

[Mitch672]

heathersuzzane, what you need to do is set up "multiple location ars", you would have separate ars tables and route for location 1 and location 2. You can then choose the correct trunk group for bypass, for each place.... in other words when you are in brazil and calling a city in chile, you would route the call through the chile PRI/trunks, and vica versa...

"change ars ana location 1", and "change ars ana location 2", you need to probably be at CM 3.1.4 or CM 4 as well... you also must adminster "chnage locations" and set up both locations. I would also setup IP network regions for each location, and Ip codec sets as well, to control the codec being used between the sites and at each site as well.

You don't need IP trunking if one site is an LSP off the other, they are already connected....

mitch


AVAYA Certified Specialist