IPO to IPO

[Shine52]

I want to integrate an IPO to another IPO via Point to Point T1 w/ a cross over cable. I want VM Pro to exist on both IPO's. Basically just using the P2P for transfer and 4 digit dialing. I can not use SCN because of capacity issues.

Does anyone have any experience w/ this and if it works well?

Figure it out damn-it!

 

[yipster]

Why would you want to do that?

How far apart are each IPOs.

You want to like them together with a "Point to Point T1 w/ a cross over cable."

 

[jbvoth]

What is your thought process on the cross-over cable?

 

[BE36]

Shine52,

Are the two IPO's next to each other, so that you could use a crossover cable. If they are being connected, because of distance, over a network T-1 circuit, you whouldn't need a crossover cable.

 

[kmefford]

It sounds like he needs more capacity than what one IP Office can give him. Linking 2 together with a point to point (back to back) PRI via a cross over cable would work

I have done a similar setup with a Magix system in the past.

In the IP Office, it would need shortcodes on both switches to handle extension calls to the other switch.

Running 2 VM Pro servers should not be a problem either as long as the switches are configured to point to the correct server. It probably wouldn't hurt to keep one of the IP Office and accompaning VM server on a seperate network.

 

[Shine52]

It is a capacity issue and everything is at the same sight. I am in the process of switching 4 Magix systems tied together all via cross over T1. Phones are expensive, and I can just reuse the 4400 series telephones.

I've already tied one IPO to the existing Magix network and am having some problems w/ the T1 dropping. If I eliminate all Magix and put in a new IPO and tie it together, I want to know that the T1 will be stable. I know in an SCN environment, you can not have multiple VM systems, and your capacity is greatly reduced.

kmefford , your thought on the different network is a good one, thank you.

I am still looking for any input if anyone has done this, and if it is stable.


Figure it out damn-it!

 

[kristiandg]

If you could connect them via VoIP instead, you could utilize Small Community Networking, which would also allow you to monitor the status of stations on the other system. For the most part, the two systems would act as one (directed pickup, paging, etc). It'd be more expensive, but the functionality might make it worth it......

Hope this helps...

Kris G.

 

[janni78]

Just the thought of putting two IPOs together instead of buying a proper size system just makes me... humm...

It's crazy and I like it.

 

[kmefford]

janni78, it isn't ALWAYS crazy.

Sometime's it's more cost effective too.

 

[telecomtekperson]

Personally, I would set up Voip trunks between the 2. You dont have to do anything else unless you will need to have either side call either hunt groups...then you have to make a short code.

With voip lines, you would not need 2 t1 cards.

 

[kmefford]

But with 2 T1 cards, you can get around the limitation of the dial plan.

Not the "normal" way of doing things by any means but a fun use of technology.

 

[telecomtekperson]

Waste of money.

 

[Shine52]

Well first off Telecomtekperson, it's not a waste of money, especially when a company already has $$ invested in almost 800 phones. Not always can a company predict growth and come right out of the shoot and buy an Enterprise solution. Sometime things happen, and you have to make the best of what you have, and in this case, 800 phones equates to lots of $$ which means I need a way to figure out how to save that investment.

My thought, in the "fun" w/ technology part is, if I'm linking the 2 via p2p T1, that could possibly mean that I could run 2 seperate SCN's out of both switches to even further link more sites. Just a thought, haven't tried it yet, but I'm thinking it could work.

And by the way, currently I have the IPO connected to a Magix, which connects to 2 other Magix's. I'm getting more bang for my buck then most

Figure it out damn-it!

 

[dphoneguy24]

Sounds like a nightmare to me. I have done it in our lab for certain testing and training scenarios, but in the real world I would definitely not approach it. It sounds like to me if this particular customer has experienced the kind of growth you mention, it is probably in their best interest to move on to a larger system. From the outside looking in, I would bet that you can't support or sell the larger system and it is hurting you to tell them you have to let go and let someone else come in.

 

[tlpeter]

just do it

dont be afraid of a challenge
if the customer dont want to spend money then that's the way it is

 

[Shine52]

Pretty funny post, and some valid posts on both sides. I can support an Enterprise solution and although I may not be able to sell it myself, I have partnered w/ other business partners who can. Again, over 800 4400 series telephones. How much would 800 new phones cost?$?$?$?$?$?$?$?$??$? Just wondering....actually not wondering at all, it's a completely valid reason of why you would do it. It's not a "new" opportunity. It's a solution, that over the last 4 years, has saved them tens of thousands of dollars.

I have had issues keeping the T1 stable between the IPO and Magix(been about 3 weeks), but we're getting to the bottom of it. If I can run the SCN scenario I mentioned before, the fun could just be beginning. DOes anyone think you could do that. Take 2 IPO's, connect them via P2P T1 and then run 2 seperate SCN's off of each one and have them talk to each other. As long as the dial plan is different, I really don't see why it wouldn't work. Any thoughts.

Figure it out damn-it!

 

[5thmsstech]

NPL 800 4406's $18,770.00
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Did I win?

 

[IPGuru]

I would still sugest VoIP trunks rather than networking vis T1

I cannot see what issues you would have with your dial plans, perhaps if you coulde give an example of what you think would not work & a solution could be found.

SCN is optional not compulsory, if it is not enabled then routing to the VoIP would be no diferent than routing calls Via a 2nd T1