IP406 & IP400DS connection distance

[codermonkey]

Greetings,

We've just rented an office "next" door to our main. I need to put 15 phones in there. Wiring it to the existing network is not really practical, so I'm thinking of just putting an IP400DS there, and running a single cable back to the main IP406. Will that work?
The distance would be around 100 feet.

Opinions?

Much appreciated.

 

[tlpeter]

No it it will not work !!!!!!


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[kwing112000]

Anything longer then the Blue cable it comes with will not work. Even other cables the same length may give you issues.

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[gknight1]

i would not chance it, you will probably have problems. i would go with IP phones. that way you are still just running one cable over there, that is assumming they have at least one data cable at the locations they need.

 

[codermonkey]

Damn, you all suck, that's not the answer I wanted
I was afraid that this would be the answer.
I'm running fiber to the new office, so IP phones should have plenty of bandwidth.
Are there any other solutions to this issue, apart from IP phones?

 

[tlpeter]

No

Be sure you have vcm channels for ipphones !!!

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[codermonkey]

It the VCM an expansion card on the back on the 406? Right now I'm using them both for POTS lines.
If it is an expansino card, would you have the model number handy?

 

[tlpeter]

It is inside the unit
Open monitor and look for something like this:

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281744659mS PRN: LAW=A PRI=1, BRI=4, ALOG=0, ADSL=0 VCOMP=32, MDM=0, WAN=0, MODU=1 LANM=0 CkSRC=1 VMAIL=1(VER=3 TYP=1) CALLS=0(TOT=995)


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[amriddle01]

Why don't you run a voice link (50pr)in at the same time as the fibre and terminate onto patch panels then you just patch the Dig extns through! The cost of that length of cable and panels is not much.

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[Bas1234]

IPDect might be a solutions?!

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[codermonkey]

I don't quite follow. The VCM is an expansion card right?

I do like the 50 pair voice link.

 

[amriddle01]

VCM sits inside the 406, you need that for IP handsets or the IP Dect. If you went for IP Dect you would need a base staion and licence and a POE switch/Power injector, then you have cordless handsets as extensions from the system. Cable would be cheaper and you get a bit more functionality from a Dig than an IP Dect handset

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[l33byt1980]

Voice link all the way.

50 Way voice panel, some suitable cable - Cable run then terminate onto another voice panel.

Just ensure that the earthing meets those required in your area.
At lease this way you could patch through analogue extensions as well as your normal digital sets.

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[codermonkey]

The voice link is cetrainly a good idea, and initially I was leaning towards it. However the more I think about it, the more I lean towards the IP phones.
It far less work for me. I just run one fiber and that's it.
Also, I was thinking about cost, and although at first glance the VCM is expensive ($2k), however I would need a new DS30 anyway, plus the patch panels, plus the cable, plus my time to patch all that.
I'm probably being a little lazy, but the IP route seems easier. Now the only challenge is to find a cheap supplier for the VCM.

 

[codermonkey]

The voice link is cetrainly a good idea, and initially I was leaning towards it. However the more I think about it, the more I lean towards the IP phones.
It far less work for me. I just run one fiber and that's it.
Also, I was thinking about cost, and although at first glance the VCM is expensive ($2k), however I would need a new DS30 anyway, plus the patch panels, plus the cable, plus my time to patch all that.
I'm probably being a little lazy, but the IP route seems easier. Now the only challenge is to find a cheap supplier for the VCM.

 

[amriddle01]

Is there an echo in here?

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[amriddle01]

Either way is good as long as they don't need fax/PDQ or modem you'll be ok.

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[tekegg]

Along the same lines, we are moving some folks into a building that will be on the other end of a 1000 foot fiber connection. Does anyone know what type of signalling is used between the CU and the port module? If it's some standard protocol, then maybe a converter could be used that would allow an extended run.

 

[tlpeter]

Do not even try !
It will not work !
Use ipphone if you have a fiber between those offices

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[amriddle01]

It's to do with the TDM side of things, anything longer cable wise increases the delay only slightly but enough to screw things up, using convertors would increase the delay as they have to accept then resend the data and vice versa so you're in the same boat!

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