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InDesign CS3 to CS2 font problem

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garthleo

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May 22, 2007
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We are beginning to venture out into ID CS3 and presently need to save files down to CS2 for output to press. So far we've concluded that we need to be running ID 4.0.5 and using the INX file saved from CS3. But when the INX file is opened in CS2, it doesn't recognize the fonts. Actually, sometimes it will recognize a few fonts, but not most of them. I have used "Find font" to track down the fonts, but they appear with a slightly different name, some with a (BM) after the name. I am not only concerned about type reflow from picking the wrong fonts, but I am also unwilling to spend valuable production time fishing for fonts. We need to bridge the gap between CS3 and CS2 cleanly, so I am looking for tips. Oh yeah, the OS has been updated to 10.4.9.
 
What logic is employed to save down to CS2 for press? Saving down introduces too many opportunities for problems. You've already discovered one issue with the way different versions of InDesign locate fonts by their names.

The safest way to print is via PDF. Ask the printer for their preferred PDF profile.
 
One of my freelance designers is shifting to CS3. We are using CS2 in-house. The designer submits her files to me and I check the file, add a barcode (which must be done in-house) and make a PDF for the printer.
 
...this is a similar issue with going from CS2 to CS with fonts...

..as a workaround to your issue, you could place a pdf created from CS3 into indesign CS2 and then apply your required barcode in a picture frame, then export to pdf again...

...there is also an issue with opening CS2 files into CS3, the text render can be different, appearance of text is different between CS2 and CS3 with regards to spacing between words. Using identical settings and fonts in both applications and setting the kerning to 0 (zero) rather than optical or metric in CS3 appears to render the type as it would look in CS2...

...another one I have come across is with opening CS2 files that have spot/alpha channel psd's into CS3. I found a manual relink sorted this out in the end...

Andrew
 
Wouldn't the $199 upgrade for one station to handle the freelancer's files be cheaper than wasting time tweaking their files? It must be cheaper than reprinting something that did not translate properly and was missed in review.

You can run CS3 and CS2 on the same computer.
 
...i agree with jimoblak here, it is always better to keep the original document in it's created application, Quark 7.x to 6.5 is another classic example of how things can go horribly wrong and not just with fonts...

Andrew
 
One problem you MIGHT be having is font locations in OSX. You might have the fonts in certain font storage places and the designer in another. The same can happen in Windows to Mac. Sometimes various font management apps can also present difficulties. You might ask the designer to package up the ID folder so you have the fonts with the doc and see if they match. All of the foregoing is just a guess as to the possible cause of the problem.

You could also ask her to run up the work in CS2 or CS1 (which will open in 2). By the way, my vote goes to this. The vendor should provide the work in a format compatible with the customer.

You could also ask her to send you a pdf to your spec so you can simply insert that in an Indesign doc and add the bar code.

Using OSX 10.3.9 on a G4
 
Here's a few more details:
Each freelancer collects his/her files before submitting them to me. Using Suitcase 11.0.2, I load those fonts, then open the layout doc.
The PDF is an interesting idea, except that I often have to tweak placement of items from this designer.
She can work in CS2 for now, but she is moving back to the states in a couple of months & needs to work from her Intel Mac laptop throughout the move, which explains why she needed to get CS3.
My supervisor is not interested in spending money to resolve this problem that involves designer.
Which is why I'm here talking to you guys.
Thanks for all your input. Keep it comin'.
 
...i would keep you hard drive font locations as clean as possible so as to avoid possible conflicts and ensuring that the fonts being used are those from the designer and not your own slightly different versions...

...as a precaution you could ask the designer to supply a pdf visual to check against when you open the inx file in cs2...

...being careful to check through that no text has reflowed etc etc when you have manually updated the fonts in 'find fonts'...

Andrew
 
If you want, the pdf will be editable in Illustrator, if you have AI, if you want to move something. To a lesser extent, it can also be edited in Acrobat pro.

Using OSX 10.3.9 on a G4
 
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