IDE Hdd not found - XP perhaps?

[Artois28]

Hi Guys,

Hope you can help.

Very quickly, here's what has happened so far.
Built a new system - E6600 Core 2 CPU, P5K Motherboard, 2 Gb Ram, 650W PSU.
My original Hdd (the boot drive with XP Pro)is IDE but the Mobo has 1 IDE connection and I was informed that it did not support hard drives only optical drives, so I bought an IDE controller card. I couldn't get the drivers to install with XP Pro, so out of frustration I bought a new SATA Hdd, installed XP Pro on that and made it my boot drive.
Now I find that there is some important data on my original IDE Drive, so I bought another IDE controller card, got the drivers installed, but, and this is the thing I can't work out, when I attach the IDE drive to the motherboard, it goes through POST and then hangs, despite the fact that my new SATA drive is listed as being the boot drive in the BIOS.
Is this because I now have two versions of XP Pro or a problem with the BIOS.

I know it's long winded but any help would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers

Artois28

 

[G0AOZ]

Could be a problem relating to how the BIOS sees the two disks. Probably sees the IDE first, and the SATA second. For starters, try altering the BIOS boot sequence so that it looks to the SATA first. Also, XP's startup BOOT.INI file on the SATA probably says disk(0) whereas you may need disk(1) now.

Haven't checked it out, but I'd be surprised if the IDE i/face on that mobo wouldn't support an IDE HDD...

The other problem I found with some add-in PCI cards was the need to alter the IRQ allocated to that particular motherboard slot.

ROGER - G0AOZ.

 

[Freestone]

A quick look at the Asus P5K specs at

http://usa.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=534&l4=0&model=1637&modelmenu=2

shows 1 x UltraDMA 133/100/66 for up to 2 PATA device so why would it not work with your IDE drive? Remove the add-in IDE card and try the drive on the built-in IDE adapter.

 

[BadBigBen]

1.) in the BIOS boot order make sure that no SCSI, or other Boot device, is listed other than the SATA HDD...

2.) also check to see if there is a setting for BOOT OTHER and set it to disabled, it may also be called something like BOOT to SCSI or Inject SCSI ROM...

other than that, you may need to bomb the C: partition of the IDE drive, basically make it non-active and non-bootable...

Ben

"If it works don't fix it! If it doesn't use a sledgehammer..."

 

[Artois28]

Thanks for the quick replys guys,

I have a feeling that the IDE hdd has a problem, just tried it on it's own (after looking at you're advice) with my SATA drive disconnected and the BIOS set to boot from IDE, and the drive just hangs with a flashing cursor on a black screen.
Could this be the MBR ?

Cheers

Artois28

 

[Freestone]

Does BIOS see the drive?

 

[firewolfrl]

the person that told you that
"the Mobo has 1 IDE connection and I was informed that it did not support hard drives only optical drives"

That is a load of #%%$%@@@.....LOL

reconnect the sata and in the bios make the sata drive the first boot drive.

Your old IDE drive can not be a boot drive in your new system. because of the hardware differences

you said "just tried it on it's own (after looking at you're advice) with my SATA drive disconnected and the BIOS set to boot from IDE"

that just won't work. it is correct that it hung and just gave a flashing curser....so nothing may be wrong with the drive


if the sata boots first then when it is loaded it will detect the IDE drive then after it loads the volume and asks for a reboot you should be able to get all your data that you need off the drive.


then after that you can disconnect the sata and do a repair/reinstall(don't do it with sata installed) of windows on the IDE drive to make it boot to that drive....though there is really no purpose in doing that

 

[BadBigBen]

Another thing comes to mind...

do you have an optical drive connected with the IDE HDD aswell? if yes... then make sure that the HD is set to Master or Slave and the CD/DVD is set to the other...


Ben

"If it works don't fix it! If it doesn't use a sledgehammer..."

 

[Director12]

Thanks for the quick replys guys,

I have a feeling that the IDE hdd has a problem, just tried it on it's own (after looking at you're advice) with my SATA drive disconnected and the BIOS set to boot from IDE, and the drive just hangs with a flashing cursor on a black screen.
Could this be the MBR ?

Cheers

Artois28 "

I just had almost the same problems as you with this board (which I DOA'd and replaced with a GB board. Only I wasn't trying to use an old IDE drive, all new parts. I did have a DVDRW on the ide channel and a couple of times during the process, BIOS would stop seeing the DVDRW. I also got a few blue screens with 'bad pool header' and 'page frame error' messages after I finally got windows to load. Even though I gotit load I could NOT get it to run as it would hang on the windows loading screen. This is after trying 2 brand new HDD's, 2 DVDRW's and 4 different brand new sticks of ram. I also discovered that it would not see any hdd's plugged into slots 3 or 4. I also updated to the latest bios which made no difference. Coincidence?

 

[HalComps]

Hi
Just a question, Have u installed drivers for the SATA? Also if ur using an IDE PCI card make sure that the IDE on the motherboard is disabled. You can run both SATA and IDE as long as u have set it in the BIOS which is the Master and which is the slave, also check to see if u have CD to boot fisrt then Floppy then ur HDD, CD set it as master slave and try again booting ur PC, i hope this has been a little bit of help for u.

 

[robFSS]

Dude -

Did you adjust the jumper position on the old drive to run as a slave or cable-select rather than master?

(apologies if someone else suggested this, I only skimmed the previous posts).

-r

 

[MrBluemule]

Hey Artois: I am learning to become an A+ certified technition. I have a suggestion or (2)2. You mentioned that you loaded XP PRO from your first/internal on to your external HDD, you also said you now have two(2) versions of your OS. I hope they are not having, each its own BIOS strings. if yes, you must use the origonal BIOS for that mobo. In some situations your BIOS in the flash ROM chipset may not have the code strings needed to recognize your external HHD. You may need to do a BIOS upgrade, or even have to flash the BIOS. I hope sincerely that it DOES NOT come to flashing the BioS. Because that can cause the BIOS to not function with the mobo correctly or not one single bit. If either happens, you will end up getting a new mobo. I hope to have been of assistance. It may also be, if the BIOS strings match. Which they should. You may have to desgnate, WHICH HHD is the bootible drive. And asign each one its own letter. Hopefully that should solve things. If nothing else you may end up running it as a USB 2.0 or higher HHD. I hope these suggestions also help, and are satisfactory. MrBluemule Good skills to you!

 

[dseaver]

Instead of trying to put the IDE HDD in the computer, why not just get an external enclosure? Instead of buying the IDE controller cards, I would have got an enclosure and hooked it up USB or Firewire. That way you can boot up then connect the HDD. That's just my 2 cents