I would like to have windows xp and windows 98 on the same pc 6

[frejohlag2]

That it basically. If I have windows 98 on my xp-computer I can afford Pro-Tools (multitrack software) since its free then.It doesnt work on Xp.

Thanks in advance
Sincerely Fredrik

 

[PAndersen]

Install Win98 first, and then XP on another partitions and you can have a multiboot system.

 

[geraghtyr]

Any time I dual boot I use seperate hard drives and just disable the one I don't want to run in the bios. It is less confusing and more stable.

For example, I install xp on the primary master HD (hard drive) and Win98 on the secondary master. If I want XP I just go into the bios and specify none for the win98/secondary master HD. If I want 98 is specify none for the xp/primary master and reenable the secondary master.

To install the operating systems put just one HD on as the primary master and remove the other. When both HD's are loaded them set it up as listed above!

I've been using this for dual booting for years! I use Cool Edit Pro v2 for recording.

Good Luck!
Rob

 

[kwoody]

The answer is possibly, but there is a lot involved as I tried having WIN98SE and WIN2000 on my computer, clled Dual Boot
You must put the 2 operating system on different partitions
WIN2000/ XP must be in Fat32. New partition must be made active. Some Bios will not allow active partitions farther than about 2GB from the beginning. Strongly suggest getting Partition magic 7 or 8 and read their book I bought mine for $12.00 on eBay. Win2000/XP are very different from Win98
and new drivers must be added for many functions

 

[smah]

Piece of cake. Here's everything you need to know.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;306559

 

[cdogg]

geraghtyr,
"Any time I dual boot I use seperate hard drives...less confusing and more stable"

Perhaps less confusing to some, but I don't see how it is more stable. I've configured dozens of multi-boot systems using 2 partitions on one hard drive. Stability has never been an issue for me, given it's set up right.


kwoody,
"WIN2000/ XP must be in Fat32"

Hmmm. That's not necessarily true. You can have the 2000 or XP partition as NTFS. The only time you want to make sure it's FAT32 is if you want to be able to access that partition from Win98.

"New partition must be made active"

The XP partition should be added last. The Win98 partition stays active on boot. There are bootup files that prompt you to select the OS at startup. There's no need to make XP's partition (the "new partition&quot active or primary if that's what you were saying.


frejohlag2
Don't let the advice from some scare ya! It's not that hard as smah put it. Simply boot to the XP CD and let setup create a new partition for XP. It will handle all the necessary configuration for you. ~cdogg

"The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
- A. Einstein

 

[geraghtyr]

cdogg wrote, "Perhaps less confusing to some, but I don't see how it is more stable. I've configured dozens of multi-boot systems using 2 partitions on one hard drive. Stability has never been an issue for me, given it's set up right."

Um, wrong! Two hard drives with seperate operating systems is so much more stable than a dual boot I can't believe you took the time to type otherwise!

Both OS's can be on their native partitions (fat32/NTFS), there is no shared directory structure and no need to learn special installation techniques. Can you argue with this?

For "ordinary users" that want two OS's, seperate hard drives are the easiest way to go!

 

[thebigguy128]

I agree with cdogg on this...I have also been using dual boot with different partitions for some time and have never had a stability problem that I could associate with it.

As far as being easier for "ordinary users", I would rather have them get a boot menu and not have them fiddling around in the BIOS...I have unmucked more machines than I care to count becaused "ordinary users" were screwing around in their BIOS settings.

 

[bgross22]

Using two seperate hard drives seems easier. I have XP and 98se on seperate hard drives and using partion magics dual boot program and I never have to disable a drive. I just pick one on bootup and that is it. I have heard of stability issues with having them on the same drive although I have never tested it to find out. From reading these posts it should not be too much of a problem if you do it right.

 

[cdogg]

bigguy,
Excellent post! My point exactly...


geraghtyr,
Try and keep it professional. We all have our opinions and sometimes we disagree. Clearly, you wouldn't want "inexperienced" users messing with their BIOS settings now would you? And I'm curious, how many systems have you configured for dual-boot using just one drive? Any? How is it less stable? Please, indulge me...


~cdogg

"The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
- A. Einstein

 

[jmatt]

As a matter of interest folks .

W98 uses scanreg /restore to recover from a crash .

When 98 & XP are on a partitioned HD , ( using XP dual boot ) this option is changed by the XP install .

How do you recover the 98 registry ?

 

[cdogg]

jmatt,
Say you have 2 partitions: 98 on the primary and XP on the secondary. During XP's install to the secondary partition, it does not overwrite any scanreg settings that I'm aware of. The only thing XP's setup does is modify the boot sector, adding the necessary files needed for "dual-boot" to the 98 partition. These files include:

- Bootsect.dos
- Boot.ini
- Ntdetect.com
- Ntldr

There might be a few others added as well. However to my knowledge, both OS's stay completely separated. The modifications made by XP only involve startup files so that the boot menu is properly displayed and works. I've got 98 and 2000 currently on the system I'm using now. Scanreg works fine...


~cdogg

"The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
- A. Einstein

 

[ggrraahhaamm]

Just for interest, have a look at a piece of software that simplifies running multiple O/S at

http://www.hyperossystems.co.uk

 

[wolluf]

ggrraahhaamm

interesting - has anybody here used this software? Some of its claims sound a bit far fetched (particularly on the performance front - as having a windows manager must be an additional overhead, but they claim improved performance) - so I'd like to hear from any users.

 

[Comtech]

As a dedicated multi-boot user, and support for Windows from 95 through XP Pro, I must agree that having a separate hard drive for each OS is the easiest for a beginner to set up. I can't afford that luxury all the time, and neither can most.
Having 5 OS's spread around 3 hard drives can be daunting, and without tools such as scanreg (thanks to win98's (in)stability problems) things would be worse. It works fine, even though Win2k and XP were loaded after 98, so I don't understand that bit from jmatt.
Fortunately, MS has generously provided a boot loader with 2k/xp that actually works, although it still has drawbacks for the new user.
Not everyone has Partition magic, nor Ghost (or any other piece of relatively expensive software) close at hand, and we all prefer getting something for free if we can, that will do the same job.
For a multiboot loader, I prefer XOSL from

http://www.xosl.org

Nice GUI, easy for the beginner to use. Cheers,
Jim

http://members.cnx.net/reboot/

 

[Snickle]

I have 2 notebooks dual-booting, both have 2 10GB partitions with Win98SE on C: and 1 has Win2000 Pro on D: partition and the other has WinXP HE on D:. All partitions are FAT32 for access by either OS. Haven't seen any instability on either notebook. No choice about partitions, no room/socket for second hard drive.

I have an AMD K6-2/300MHz testbed that boots several OSes, uses a Mobile Rack and each OS is on a separate hard drive in its own cartridge. Simply shut down, turn the key, change the cartridge, turn the key, and boot up.

I saw a device in a catalog that allows 2 hard drives installed but has a key switch that changes the power/data between the 2, turns one off while turning the other on.

 

[sgtjwhite]

Another option, I have an Ibm Ide 80Gb Hddrv w/Win98se and a Ibm SCSI Hddrv 9GB w/Win XP Pro all I do is hit F4 key to bypass the Ide drv and boot into Xp Pro. Works great with that setup.
Later…

 

[LiNetTech]

$ 14.95 x 2 for the hard drive caddys 100.00 for a second hard drive ,thats the safe and easy way to dual boot a machine with windows 98 and windows xp ! i know i should say better but , I have herd of so many nightmares with dual booting windows 98 and windows Xp ! 2 hard drives one machine Just think if your primary drive takes a dump with windows xp and windows 98 on it your Junk but if you do it this way, atleast you will be able to have a pc that works ! Hey its easy for someone whom is not to Savy with partition magic or any other program that make partioning a drive easy ! Am i wrong ?

 

[Kraeg]

Can't you access an NTFS partition from Win9x with a utility? I am sure I did that once, though I can't remember much about the scenario or the utility (it was read-only access, which is what I wanted)

Speaking of multi-booting, I'd been messing around lately and ended up with the following OSes:
Windows 95
Windows 2000 Pro
Windows 2000 Pro (other partition)
Windows 2000 Advanced Server
BeOS 5 Personal Edition (just out of interest)

What a nightmare. As I went to install Linux, I realised things were getting too extreme. So now I only to boot to W2k Pro (on this PC).