I passed my BSCI 2

[Giant99]

I passed my BSCI

I felt my head turning to concrete in the last few days of fevered study but I did it. 844 points.

I couldn't work out one of the simulations, it was one of the first questions and after that I was sure I had failed but continued regardless. And it paid off.

On to the BCMSN...

 

[lerdalt]

Congrats. I think they get a little easier after the BSCI.

 

[CiscoGuy33]

Giant99,

GREAT JOB !!!!! Congrats big time

E.A. Broda
CCNA, CCDA, CCAI, Network +

 

[iolair]

Congratulations! I'm about to attempt that myself. Keep up the good work!!!!!!!!!

Iolair MacWalter
Network Engineer

 

[maczen]

Yes, congratz! Wish me the same with the CCNA Security!

B Haines
CCNA R&S, ETA FOI

 

[sushant123]

hi dear i am gone the bsci exam on 16 march. plz tel me what kind of lab is coming in the exam.what ur opinion regarding pass4sure 3.10. is it latest one dump & all the paper come from this dump or other one. if other one then told me & give their link

 

[burtsbees]

Dump? Make sure you put that on your resume...

Burt

 

[CiscoGuy33]

Burt,

You took the words right out of my mouth

My Resume _______________ (fill name here)

CCNA - (paper) I can memorize questions more better then anyone.

CCNP - (paper) Not only can I memorize questions, but I PAID $1,000 for that piece of paper.

All kidding aside - if you need to ask what lab you will get and what is the best brain dump for a CCNP exam - YOU ARE NOT READY FOR A CCNP EXAM!!!

I could not imagine walking into a job interview with a paper CCNA and paper CCNP and saying that I am a Cisco PRO !!!! It would not take long to figure out :-(

If you are going to do it - DO IT RGHT !!!!!!

Just my thoughts, hope this helps some of you reading this!!!

E.A. Broda
CCNA, CCDA, CCAI, Network +

 

[Giant99]

Hello

I did not use the pass4sure or anything like it.

I used CBT Nuggets, Cisco press certification guide and the BSCI Lab Portfolio. Lab at home is GNS3 using 3640 IOS.
I went through the book 4 times and through the more tricky labs several times. Things I didn't quite understand I researched on the internet.

I am buying switches and routers for a home lab this month for the rest of the CCNP.

As for simulations there was one for redistribution, one for EIGRP and one for isis.

 

[lerdalt]

Giant, I don't think they remarks about dumps were directed towards you, but towards the post from sushant123.

 

[Giant99]

I know

I was just trying to show off that I am totally self taught and I passed.

Now all I have to do is get a job ;-)

 

[CiscoGuy33]

Giant,

YES, as lerdalt said they were directed towards sushant123 and his asking about using "dumps".

Glad you posted what you used so that he can see what is needed to "DO IT RIGHT" !!!!

I am also glad that you are going to invest in a lab - sims and emulators are great, however if you are not working with the hardware on a daily basis, there are still things that you learn about wires, connections, upgrading DRAM and FLASH, racking equipment, what it looks like etc.

You also will learn a lot just researching what you are going to buy and what EXACTLY is the difference between that switch and another - ALL THINGS THAT WILL HELP WHEN INTERVIEWING FOR A JOB !!!!!

Once again - GREAT JOB IN PASSING!!!!!

E.A. Broda
CCNA, CCDA, CCAI, Network +

 

[Cluebird]

I had a student once who swore by braindumps (he was a paper MCSE) and insisted he could pass the CCNA exam with a braindump. I decided to get the dump he was using and tweak the questions, then give him a "practice" exam. Needless to say, he didn't understand concepts so failed miserably. I asked if he wanted his final grade based on that exam. He decided to buckle down and do the work. Since then, I haven't wasted money to make the point to students. I just tell them if they want to waste money on the dumps, go ahead, but to be good with Cisco you must go through the fire. Paper certs always get caught. For interviewees, I eat paper certs alive and make them wish they'd never met me. The cockier they are, the more I humble them. It doesn't take long. But the people I train pass their exams with high scores. They appreciate me after they get their certs.

However, I'm not nearly as brutal as Gordon Ramsey is...Hmmm...

 

[lerdalt]

Back when I was doing more work on Novell stuff, it was fun to run into one of my old college classmates. He "claimed" to be working on a Novell network where he was at but his answer for even the slightest problem was to just call into support. He started rattling off what he had problems with, I had to chuckle and tell him he didn't need to waste the $250/hr for support, just look up how to run this dsrepair with this dstrace, etc etc.

Had another guy I knew that went through a CNE boot camp. Got his CNE in under 1 week or something like that. He was very entertaining to talk shop with. Especially since he didn't know just what all I worked with, or how much I knew. Started making up fake dstrace switches and he agreed that he had used them.

I've always wondered if he deleted the _Netware partition like I asked about once. If he ever found it and pulled it off, he probably would have lost his job.

I was so evil back then.

 

[CiscoGuy33]

lerdalt,

I had a student who got a job at one of the very large technology companies in the next city, she told me when she posted for an upper level job; she used some advice I gave her and all the class. I told them not to BS on the interview, better to say you don't know something and then tell them how you would research it to find the answer.

She said that her and another guy were going for the same position and they asked them both about a Cisco 2729 switch, he told them ALL ABOUT the 2729 switch blah, blah blah....

She told them that she had only been taking Cisco Network Academy classes for 6 months and had never heard of a Cisco 2729 switch but she would use Google and the Cisco website to research the switch and get all the documentation needed to try and solve any issues. She got the job, her boss later told her that they made up a "2729" just to see what they both would answer She knew the other guy and he told her (before they knew who got the job) that he had worked on a "2729" and knew he had "nailed it" She had to laugh when her boss said they had made it up just to see who would BS and who would say what - he said she had a great answer and she expl that we had discussed it in class

E.A. Broda
CCNA, CCDA, CCAI, Network +

 

[lerdalt]

Now that's just plain funny. I'm going to have to use that one sometime.

And that is great advise. I'd much rather have someone be honest and say they don't know something, but be willing to research it and get back to me. Kind of like my "no, but" responses at times. Had to give that to a director here a few times. He kept wanting to push large radiology images across my poor over-whelmed Frame-relay network. Kept telling him "no, we can't do that right now, but give me 3 months to get my circuits upgraded and QoS pushed out, and it shouldn't be a problem."

 

[CiscoGuy33]

lerdalt,

I learned that one after 20 years in the insurance field dealing with lawyers, they will ALWAYS say - "hmmm, let me research the law on that and get back to you"!

So, I always told my students that story and NOT to BS the boss or a client, if you don't know, and NO ONE KNOWS IT ALL - nothing wrong with saying you are going to research it! Now I add both stories, students love real world experiences!!!

E.A. Broda
CCNA, CCDA, CCAI, Network +

 

[richinnameonly]

Hope you guys are the hiring managers when I go for my first Cisco job! I really respect the difference between "paper experience" and "hands-on" experience; but the resume sifters make life so much easier for the lazy HR managers that the whole field is biased toward the person with the paper certs, no matter how gained -- just to get an interview, PERIOD!
I know a lot about communications, but, more importantly, I know what I DON'T know! I have a lot of seat of the pants experience -- not with Cisco, but with a major carrier -- and have been using the CCNA process to re-enter the comm world. I have no pre-conceived notions as to what's out there, but I don't expect favors for my prior experience either. I expect to earn my stripes by doing, and hope the employers can somehow see through what I'm trying to accomplish through work and dedication.

 

[CiscoGuy33]

richinnameonly,

In my experience over the past 13+ years in this, the "Paper Cert" might get you by HR but with soooooo many that were burned by the "paper MCSE's" back in '99 to '03 - once you get by HR you normally will be run by the tech department where they will ask "real" questions and many have you do "real" hands-on tasks to see what you "really" know

Still, I see lots who want to take the short-cut :-( all I can say is they will find out when they are found out

E.A. Broda
CCNA, CCDA, CCAI, Network +

 

[unclerico]

oooooh, I'm with CiscoGuy. There is nothing, and I mean NOTHING, better than putting the paper cert holders in their place.

One example is when I was interviewing people for a Jr. Admin position. It's a jack-of-all-trades type of position, but all of the applicants were MCSE's and CCNA/NP's. I wrote up a document with 20 questions that were MCSE and CCNA level (since they claimed to be at that level of experience). Long story short I had the recruiter call me after I had interviewed these five applicants and he says "What in the world did you do to them?? Gary (not his real name) told me that he had to go home and shower because he was sweating so bad. Mike said that he had never been in such a brutal interview before". I told him that I have issues trusting just anyone with my network/systems so I am going to verify their experience level. If they would have just left off the MCSE/CCNA/NP certs I would have taken it easy on them. Point is as has been stated above, if you don't know it don't say that you do and most definitely don't put it on your resume.

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