Hub/Router/Switch

[Redneck]

When using a PC with a modem, using a regular phone line connection to the internet provider, is it better to use a hub, router, or switch if you want to have 2 PC's using the internet through one connection?

Redneck...

 

[wybnormal]

Doesnt matter.. you need none of the above with a crossover cable. The dial up is going to be the bottleneck short of running string and a couple of tin cans between the PCs

When you get into a "always on" internet connection, things change a bit. The newest routers like the Linksys, DLink and others have basic firewalls and a 4 port hub normally built into them to share the one connection.

Mike S

 

[Redneck]

I now have a crossover cable and have tried Wingate. But I can't find where/what to do after I configure it. I set it all up as described and then what? I log onto the net using my #1 cpu and then bring up Internet Explorer on #2 cpu but it is not connected. What am I missing?

I thought that a hub/router/switch might allow this automatically upon bootup of Internet Explorer.

Suggestions?

 

[wybnormal]

If I remember Wingate right.. there is a client piece that needs to be installed on the 2nd PC ( days of OLD it was a TSR) and you need to configure the IP stack on the second PC to use DHCP and point to the 1st PC as the gateway.

Mike S

 

[talisker]

Nah, with Wingate all you need to do is to setup the second PC to use a proxy server (via control panel Internet settings). For the name of the proxy server, enter the IP address of the 1st (Internet connected) PC. The Wingate help will give you the correct port settings (I think it's 1080).

If you've done this already, make sure the two PCs can PING each other. Make sure they both have the correct IP address & mask (NOT the ISP DNS address). Make sure the LEDs on the hub show they are connected.

 

[gunthnp]

no you need the client part to run nat on the second part So long and thanks for all the fish.

 

[DaveGoTech]

If you're going to network PC's through a network to a dial-up connection, be aware that nearly all ISP's allow you have only 1 PC connected using a "personal" account. Network connections via a personal dial-up can be cause for termination.

 

[talisker]

Sorry, I meant after you install the Wingate Client, then you have to setup the second (client) pc to use a proxy server. Checkout:

http://kb.deerfield.com/index.cfm?a=1040&k=1&CFID=557309&CFTOKEN=92225429

This gives you the proxy server settings.

You could use DHCP but it's not really a good idea for just 2 machines. With DHCP you always have to make sure you boot your PC's in the right order, etc.

Although Dave is right about ISPs getting uptight about "shared" Internet connections, in my experience they will only take action if you hang a web-server, ftp server, BBS, etc. off of your connection. You wouldn't do this on a dial-up connection anyway. Some ISP's also get ticked if you do VPN tunneling over a personal connection as well.

 

[bluetongol]

if you want to connect 2 pc's....try:
"

http://www.analogx.com/contents/download/network/proxy.htm"

download proxy-x and you will find it very easy to
configure. i already tried it with two of my computers.

 

[Guest_imported]

Hi
I would like to get some brief information and explanations of Hubs, Routers and switches and to find out the differences between the three of these. Any info appreciated.

Pat

 

[bluetongol]

hub - central distribution of data for a local area
network...

switch - intelligent hub, meaning it does not only
forward data but it determines first the
mac address.

router - most intelligent of the three...this device
determines the most appropriate route for
data to follow toward their destinations.

 

[gunthnp]

a little more simpler way to put is:

hud send every thing they get out to every network interface on the netowrk and it's the job of network devices to see if it for them.

switch only connect to togther the two links that are talking to each other. so many thing can talk at the same time

router and layer three switchs block broad cast pakects from flooding the network and by keeping routing table to learns and send thing the fastest way on the network.

they all do more but thats a short of what they do. I'm just started seeing layer four switchs and if any one has more info on those please put it up. So long and thanks for all the fish.