How to show out different CLID

[joonaskynstler]

I have searched this forum and manuals and didnt find answer.

What I want is

Secretary has number 120
Boss has bumber 110
When Boss calls out through PRI it should show out 120. When somebody knows Boss number (110) he can call him from city network directly.

Problem started after I upgraded 11C 20.22 to Rel 4.5.
In old system Boss had CLS LDN and there was LDN0 120 in CDB.
In new release I cant give Boss cls LDN.

I tried to use CLID but it send out wrong call type (NATL).
DCH 15 UIPE_OMSG CC_SETUP_REQ REF 00000017 CH 1 15 TOD 14:48:18 CK 003AD909
PROGRESS: ORIGINATING END IS NOT ISDN
CALLING #:120 NUM PLAN: E164 TON: NATL
CALLED #:501076422 NUM PLAN: E164 TON: UNKNOWN

In our 30B+D 2MB ISDN network we send only 3 last digits from our number and the number type has to be unknown othervise city PBX sends forward base number in our number plan.
ENTRY 1
HNTN 120
ESA_HLCL
ESA_INHN NO
ESA_APDN YES
HLCL
DIDN NO
HLOC
LSC
CLASS_FMT DN

I think the reason why call type is changed to NATL is that HNTN is called "National code for home national number (1-6 digits)".

DES M3904
TN 003 0 00 02
TYPE 3904
CDEN 8D
CUST 0
FDN
TGAR 1
LDN NO
NCOS 7
SGRP 0
RNPG 1
SCI 0
SSU
LNRS 16
XLST
SCPW
SFLT NO
CAC_CIS 3
CAC_MFC 0
CLS UNR FBD WTA LPR PUA MTD FND HTD TDD HFD GRLD CRPD STSA
MWD LMPN RMMD SMWD AAD IMD XHD IRD NID OLD VCE DRG1
POD DSX VMD CMSD SLKD CCSD SWD LNA CNDA
CFTD SFD MRD DDV CNIA CDCA MSID DAPA BFED RCBD
ICDD CDMD MCTD CLBD AUTD
GPUA DPUA DNDA CFXA ARHA FITA CLTD ASCD
CPFA CPTA ABDD CFHD FICD NAID DNAA BUZZ AGRD MOAD
UDI RCC HBTD AHD IPND DDGA NAMA MIND PRSD NRWD NRCD NROD
DRDD EXR0
USRD ULAD RTDD RBDD RBHD PGND OCBD FLXD FTTC DNDY DNO3 MCBN
FDSD NOVD CDMR
CPND_LANG ENG
HUNT
PLEV 02
CSDN
AST
IAPG 0
AACS NO
ITNA NO
DGRP
MLWU_LANG 0
MLNG ENG
DNDR 0
KEY 00 SCR 110 1 MARP

Half solution is to make

KEY 00 SCR 110 D MARP
ANIE 0
01 MCN 150 0 MARP
Then I send out number 150 but this 150 cant be programmed under key 0 somewere so I cant enter 120 instead of 150 because 120 is used as key 0 scr on secretay set.

Maybe you can sugest some kind of solution or fetaure that I could use to reach my goals?

 

[srmega41]

Create a unique CLID table that sends out the number you want (120). Make it some high number, like 9, then reprogram his DN as:

KEY 00 SCR 110 9

Hope this helps,

Scott M.

 

[johnpoole]

to add a clid chg net then enter yes at the clid prompt.. the entry 2, fill that in and change the key 0 scr xxx 2.. that sends clid 2, without notice of the dn

john poole
bellsouth business
columbia,sc

 

[joonaskynstler]

My problem is that when I use CLID Meidian changes call type fropm unknown to natl. Whit clid I can send out the right number but Service Provider (City PBX) wants to recieve only numbers with number type unknown. When it sees natl it discards the number Meridian is sending and send out to the network our numbering plans first number (base number).

Can I change call type somehow or use some other solution to show out other subscriber number without changing call type from unkonwn to soemthing else?
For other users I am using CLID 0

ENTRY 0
HNTN
ESA_HLCL
ESA_INHN NO
ESA_APDN YES
HLCL
DIDN YES
HLOC
LSC
CLASS_FMT DN

So subscriber sends out its DN number and call type is unknown.

"
In our 30B+D 2MB ISDN network we send only 3 last digits from our number and the number type has to be unknown othervise city PBX sends forward base number in our number plan.
ENTRY 1
HNTN 120
ESA_HLCL
ESA_INHN NO
ESA_APDN YES
HLCL
DIDN NO
HLOC
LSC
CLASS_FMT DN

I think the reason why call type is changed to NATL is that HNTN is called "National code for home national number (1-6 digits)".

 

[johnpoole]

change the call type to unknown in your rlb ld 86

john poole
bellsouth business
columbia,sc

 

[joonaskynstler]

What do you mean? Change DMI setting from 0 to 1?

REQ prt
CUST 0
FEAT rlb
RLI 5

RLI 5
ENTR 0
LTER NO
ROUT 1
TOD 0 ON 1 ON 2 ON 3 ON
4 ON 5 ON 6 ON 7 ON
VNS NO
CNV NO
EXP NO
FRL 5
DMI 1
FCI 0
FSNI 0
BNE NO
SBOC NRR
IDBB DBD
IOHQ NO
OHQ NO
CBQ NO

ISET 0
NALT 5
MFRL 5
OVLL 0

DMI 1
DEL 0
ISPN NO
CTYP UKWN

still

DCH 15 UIPE_OMSG CC_SETUP_REQ REF 00000035 CH 1 15 TOD 15:04:56 CK 0AA60B5D
PROGRESS: ORIGINATING END IS NOT ISDN
CALLING #:120 NUM PLAN: E164 TON: NATL - still national (clid HNTN 120 activated on key 0 scr 110 1)
CALLED #:50xxxx NUM PLAN: E164 TON: UNKNOWN

 

[johnpoole]

in the rlb add a dgt that deletes nothing and adds nothing, just changes the call type to the one you need.. a dgt can be used in any rlb to modify just the call type

john poole
bellsouth business
columbia,sc

 

[joonaskynstler]

Whit DMI CTYP INTL i get

DMI 1
DEL 1
ISPN NO
INST 5
CTYP INTL


DMI 1
DEL 1
ISPN NO
INST 5
CTYP INTL


DCH 15 UIPE_OMSG CC_SETUP_REQ REF 0000003F CH 1 15 TOD 16:24:46 CK 0B3836DE
PROGRESS: ORIGINATING END IS NOT ISDN
CALLING #:120 NUM PLAN: E164 TON: NATL
CALLED #:50xxxxx NUM PLAN: E164 TON: INTL --- it changed to INTL because DMI.

I need that both callling and called would be unknown.
I know now how to change called number type but how I can change calling number.

 

[joonaskynstler]

Found the answer

>ld 21
PT1000

REQ: prt
TYPE: rdb
CUST 0
ROUT
ACOD

TYPE RDB
CUST 00
DMOD
ROUT 1
DES
TKTP DID
NPID_TBL_NUM 0
SAT NO
RCLS EXT
VTRK NO
NODE
DTRK YES
BRIP NO
DGTP PRI2
ISDN YES
MODE PRA
IFC EURO
CNTY FIN
SBN NO
PNI 00000
NCNA NO
NCRD NO
ISAR NO
CPFXS YES
SDID YES --- First you have to say SDID Yes
CTON UKWN --- Calling Party Number
(NCHG)
UKWN
INTL
NATL
LOCL

DAPC YES
TBL 1
INTC NO

If I set CTON to NCHG and my subscriber has CLID it still shows CALLING #:120 NUM PLAN: E164 TON: NATL but if I change it to UKWN I force Meridian to SHOW out Calling party number as UNKNOWN.

Thank you all for your support and helped me to keep going.

I think I found another problem though, not related to the CLID.

Question. Is partial rerouting possible with 11C?

 

[johnpoole]

define partial ?

john poole
bellsouth business
columbia,sc

 

[joonaskynstler]

If the subscriber activates call forward to external number

the usual case is that if someone calls from city to pbx one ISDN B channel is taken and when call is forwarded out, another B channel is taken and those B channels stay busy until the call ends.

When you have what they call here "partial rerouting", then if the call setup is in progress on D channel and the service provider and pbx are signalin to each other and PBX "says" my number X is transfered outside PBX to this destination, then service provider does the transfer itself and no B channels are taken in use at all. It makes possible also show A number to pearson who receives the call and bills for forwarded calls are going to the right number (the number X who activated call forward) not on base number.

It can be done in Siemens HiPath 3000 series for sure.

 

[sirthomas63]

Hi John,

This is my first time here and I already found it tremendously helpful, so thank you...

As I read the Q&A, I would like to add one more clarifying question..

I have an Option 81C that serve two different buildings (two different CO's) with tie cables between them. For 911 calls, all go thru building 1... We need to have the Public Emergency Center go to Building 2 directly when 911 is called..

I have two business lines installed in Building 2 that I will extend them to B1..

My questions are...

A.) If I route building 2 911 calls out on these two trunks how do I do that.. or

B.) Can I use the CLID program in LD 15 and insert the ANI of the business number there and still do the same thing ???

Thanks again in advance...


-Thomas