How to migrate content from Stellent to Livelink?

[venkatalakkoju]

Hello,

I have a requirement to migrate content from Stellent to Opentext Livelink. I would appreciate if someone who has experience on this type of migration, could guide me on this. Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Venkata

 

[appnair]

Hi this kind of activity is almost done everyday by integrators and there are a few commercial tools ready made for this purpose available at pretty exorbitant rates and training.My advise to you is approach this as not a technical project as migrating content will be the least of your worries.You will certainly need to have a plan and by that I mean

A)Does the Object model of Stellent have things common to Livelink.An e.g some DMS's call Documents by their mimetypes.In livelink a document is a single subtype with a varying mime
B)does the source system have concepts of users & groups.Livelink has but its ACL's are done a different way.
C)does source system have some kind of metadata that will be useful in the new one

I would say if you spend 70 % of your project time on a plan to understand both sytems then it will take only 30 % effort for actual migrtaion as both companies have IN/OUT ways

the most cheap way of importing content into livelink is by installing and configuring the ever popular Object Importer module in livelink.It has a syntax guide that tells you the xml a programmer has to create to get the content in livelink.Naturally if you use this tool then you will need a programmer who understands how to make ASCII files .In my tenure I was using a access database with some VBA to make the xml.I have used PERL.I have use C# ,Java anything that you can make up a xml file.

An eg xml instruction that creates a document in livelink.I have dumb ed it down so only the very minimum data is shown

<node action="create" type="Document">

<file><![CDATA[F:\csdata\opentext\oe\destination\aaa_20120918142005\2012091814200527800\0000000001]]></file>
<location><![CDATA[Enterprise:OEFolderx]]></location>
<mime><![CDATA[text/xml]]></mime>
<modified><![CDATA[20120918132547]]></modified>
<title><![CDATA[OE_test.xml]]></title>
</node>
You just go on adding about 1000 of these instructions and feed it.If you need more install a bunc of OI servers to increase your thruput
If you are the programming kind then you have webservices in livelink ,the old lapi interfaces or even OSCRIPT which is the language that livelink uses
Commercial tools are from Syntergy,OT GENIO it is called something else now,Document Pipelines for LES from OT .All commercial tools don't require you to do programming but light weight scripting but comes with a price and training.

I have used OI to make all my migration projects succeed and have never felt the need to buy any other tool for this.When I do migration projects such as this the two sides arrange on a staging are perhaps a database where stellent can deliver and livelink can pickup that is the approach I have used.That helps is re-trying faile do nes and increasing throughput


Well, if I called the wrong number, why did you answer the phone?
James Thurber, New Yorker cartoon caption, June 5, 1937
Certified OT Developer,Livelink ECM Champion 2008,Livelink ECM Champion 2010

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[venkatalakkoju]

Hi Appu,

Thanks much for your valuable input. After going through your response I think OI would be the best tool for this migration since we have around 20 gb of content only in Stellent. Do you know if there is any white paper / how to document available for this type of migration? Thanks again.

Regards,
Venkata

 

[appnair]

I am not sure of such a precise document but whatever common sense dictates and fits the bill.I have written a poor man's guide to make one livelink from another livelink
perhaps reading the target side of it may give you some ideas.It has some screen caps as well.
Here's a doc I made for the OT community

https://knowledge.opentext.com/knowledge/cs.dll?func=ll&objaction=overview&objid=17764164

Many people have since told me that much of the information has been useful to them and really all I did was just take the collective intelligence of the livelink community into a document.You need a KB account if not I can put it in the self registering communities site.
I also may have a document describing what my approaches in past integration have been for the life of me I can't find it any where
If I find it I will let you have it

Well, if I called the wrong number, why did you answer the phone?
James Thurber, New Yorker cartoon caption, June 5, 1937
Certified OT Developer,Livelink ECM Champion 2008,Livelink ECM Champion 2010

http://www.tek-tips.com/faqs.cfm?fid=2884

http://www.linkedin.com/in/appunair

http://www.livelink.in

 

[venkatalakkoju]

Thanks a bunch for your help, Appu. I am familiar with Livelink to Livelink migration. So, any document on legacy integration would be much appreciated.

Regards,
Venkata

 

[appnair]

does Stellent have a windows client if so can't you just download the content and then put in livelink with
explorer or enterprise connect or webadav.20 GB by any standards is not that much these days....

Well, if I called the wrong number, why did you answer the phone?
James Thurber, New Yorker cartoon caption, June 5, 1937
Certified OT Developer,Livelink ECM Champion 2008,Livelink ECM Champion 2010

http://www.tek-tips.com/faqs.cfm?fid=2884

http://www.linkedin.com/in/appunair

http://www.livelink.in

 

[venkatalakkoju]

I haven't got a chance to look at Stellent. Yes, I too thought of using this as one of the options. Thanks a lot for your help.

Regards,
Venkata