How can I test that my DNS is properly setup? 4

[josel]

Howdy!

I have mydomain.com and I want to host it myself. I have IIS setup and it works just fine.

I use DSL with static IP. I am able to browse the net, telnet in/out and all sort of things ... However, I cannot get DNS to work.

I registered with godaddy.com and have not been sucessful at setting the ns1 and ns2 for my domain. It has been several days and nothing has changed. I just do not know where the problem may lie ...

Could some one please offer some advise or point me in the right direction to troubleshoot/solve this problem ???

Thanks;


Jose Lerebours

KNOWLEDGE: Something you can give away endlessly and gain more of it in the process! - Jose Lerebours

 

[FaiTHLeSS]

Try these 2 sites

http://www.dnsreport.com

http://www.dnstuff.com

 

[josel]

Thanks!

Now that I know my DNS is not doing a thing, since my domain are still under OLD DNS, I need to dind out "why?".


Jose Lerebours

KNOWLEDGE: Something you can give away endlessly and gain more of it in the process! - Jose Lerebours

 

[ChrisAC]

You are not providing much information and without we can't help you. What do you mean by "my domain are still under OLD DNS"?

What's the domain? Maybe then we can see what the deal with it is.

Chris.


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chris@iproute.co.uk
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[dearingkr]

godaddy.com is managing your DNS.
You don't want to mess with the nameservers settings!

Log onto your account
Click 'Manage Domains'
Click yourdomain.com
In the bottom right corner, expand 'Domain Host Summary'

Here is where you add/change host records, such as:
www.yourdomain.com
ftp.yourdomain.com

MCSE CCNA CCDA

 

[josel]

Howdy y'all!

Here is the deal:

Domains:

http://www.ifmsystem.(com/net)

and

http://www.fpgroups.com

Right now, I am most concerned with ifmsystem.com. I just switched to godaddy.com and changed ISP from Earthlink to BellSouth (saving about $20/month). I am using DSL w/ static IP.

I have a couple of W2K servers. One of them is set for DNS and IIS. I have created all I figure I need. Here is a snapshot of my DNS ...

(same as parent folder) SOA [8], ns1.ifmsystem.com, Admin.
(same as parent folder) NS ns1.ifmsystem.com.
(same as parent folder) MX [10], ns1.ifmsystem.com.
mail A 67.35.69.77
ns1 A 67.35.69.77
ns2 A 67.35.69.77
www A 67.35.69.77

The information as shown on godaddy.com administration is not correct. My server does not appear to be broadcasting so DNS still pointing to my OLD IP address. DNS was provided by my original registrar. godaddy.com does not provide DNS unless I pay for this service or have them host my website ... I am hoping to just do it out of my own server instead.

Regards;


Jose Lerebours









KNOWLEDGE: Something you can give away endlessly and gain more of it in the process! - Jose Lerebours

 

[ChrisAC]

The whois information for your domain shows that two name servers are delegated ..

Domain servers in listed order:

http://WWW.IFMSYSTEM.COM

NS1.K9NETWORKS.COM

But, the first one doesn't appear to be a DNS server (or not one that's working anyway!)


; <<>> DiG 9.2.1 <<>> @

http://www.ifmsystem.com

any
;; global options: printcmd
;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached

And the other one doesn't think that it's authoratative for the domain ..

[chris@uranium chris]$ dig @NS1.K9NETWORKS.COM any

; <<>> DiG 9.2.1 <<>> @NS1.K9NETWORKS.COM any
;; global options: printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 16931
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 13, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 12

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;. IN NS

;; ANSWER SECTION:
. 83299 IN NS a.root-servers.net.
. 83299 IN NS b.root-servers.net.
. 83299 IN NS c.root-servers.net.
. 83299 IN NS d.root-servers.net.
. 83299 IN NS e.root-servers.net.
. 83299 IN NS f.root-servers.net.
. 83299 IN NS g.root-servers.net.
. 83299 IN NS h.root-servers.net.
. 83299 IN NS i.root-servers.net.
. 83299 IN NS j.root-servers.net.
. 83299 IN NS k.root-servers.net.
. 83299 IN NS l.root-servers.net.
. 83299 IN NS m.root-servers.net.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
a.root-servers.net. 83299 IN A 198.41.0.4
b.root-servers.net. 83299 IN A 192.228.79.201
d.root-servers.net. 83299 IN A 128.8.10.90
e.root-servers.net. 83299 IN A 192.203.230.10
f.root-servers.net. 83299 IN A 192.5.5.241
g.root-servers.net. 83299 IN A 192.112.36.4
h.root-servers.net. 83299 IN A 128.63.2.53
i.root-servers.net. 83299 IN A 192.36.148.17
j.root-servers.net. 83299 IN A 192.58.128.30
k.root-servers.net. 83299 IN A 193.0.14.129
l.root-servers.net. 83299 IN A 198.32.64.12
m.root-servers.net. 83299 IN A 202.12.27.33

;; Query time: 156 msec
;; SERVER: 65.6.187.206#53(NS1.K9NETWORKS.COM)
;; WHEN: Mon May 24 14:37:48 2004
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 433

So, the answer is to get the registrar to delegate the correct servers as at the moment they are not correct. Just setting up your own DNS server isn't enough to host your own domain. You need to get the delegation data changed as well.

Chris.


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Chris Andrew, CCNA, CCSA
chris@iproute.co.uk
**********************

 

[josel]

Chris,

That which you suggest is exactly what I am struggling with.

http://www.ifmsystem.com

is my server and ns1.k9networks.com is a friend's of mine.

I tried using ns1.ifmsystem.com on my registrar's setup but it gives me an error (you you got above).

This leaves me with the question:

If I setup my DNS on my server as shown earlier on this post, what must I do for this to be reachable externally?


I opened port 53/UDP ... Every test I've made with other ports work fine so I have little reason to think that the port itself is my problem.

Where do I go from here? What should be my checklist to troubleshoot a problem such as this?

Thank you all for you help!


Jose Lerebours

KNOWLEDGE: Something you can give away endlessly and gain more of it in the process! - Jose Lerebours

 

[FaiTHLeSS]

You might also want to open port 53TCP to allow for zone transfers.

Note if you have just changed the setup on your NS servers to point to new IP's then allow upto 48hrs for the change to fully complete.

 

[ChrisAC]

Jose,

http://www.ifmsystem.com

has a glue record of 66.149.60.242 which is an Earthlink address, so currently

http://www.ifmsystem.com

does not point to your address. You need to get your registrar to point the glue record to the correct address. At the moment it points to the wrong address! Note: this is not something that you do on your server. It's done in the parent zone.

Also, if your server is a master and the other one is a slave, only allow zone transfers from the slave and not anywhere!

Looks like the server works anyway ..

[chris@uranium chris]$ dig @67.35.69.77 ifmsystem.com any

; <<>> DiG 9.2.1 <<>> @67.35.69.77 ifmsystem.com any
;; global options: printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 3565
;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 3, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 2

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;ifmsystem.com. IN ANY

;; ANSWER SECTION:
ifmsystem.com. 3600 IN NS ns1.ifmsystem.com.
ifmsystem.com. 3600 IN SOA ns1.ifmsystem.com. administrator. 8 900 600 86400 3600
ifmsystem.com. 3600 IN MX 10 mail.ifmsystem.com.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
ns1.ifmsystem.com. 3600 IN A 67.35.69.77
mail.ifmsystem.com. 3600 IN A 67.35.69.77

;; Query time: 146 msec
;; SERVER: 67.35.69.77#53(67.35.69.77)
;; WHEN: Mon May 24 19:02:45 2004
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 151

Talk to your registrar! Only they can get this working as they create the glue records in the parent zone, not you.

Chris.



**********************
Chris Andrew, CCNA, CCSA
chris@iproute.co.uk
**********************

 

[josel]

OK, I have given my DNS 48 hours to propagate. I have tried changing my glue record with my registrar and I am still having the same problem.

My registrar does not allow me to use IP number itselt and it give me an error when I try to use ns1.ifmsystem.com as my primary DNS.

Is there a chance that the problem lies within my DSL modem and/or my D-Link router? Within my router I have opened port 10 and I have it pointing to my DNS server. Following one of posted suggestions, I changed it from UDP to BOTH (UDP and TCP/IP).

Within my LAN, I changed some of the PCs to use my local server as secondary DNS and I am able to access my web site.

I cannot ping my IP # (67.35.69.77) nor my NS records.

I am about to change registrar just so that I am able to use a glue record that allows IP number entry but I hate turning my back on a problem. If I have a problem, including my ignorance in the matter, I like to get to the root of it and solve it. I know this is going to hunt me until I learn exactly what I was facing and its solution.

I would like to extend my most sincere appreciation to both iproute and faithless for their time and efford to help me find a solution. Thank you guys!!!!

Regards;


Jose Lerebours

PS: How did I end-up with a star ???



KNOWLEDGE: Something you can give away endlessly and gain more of it in the process! - Jose Lerebours

 

[ChrisAC]

Jose,

The glue record for

http://www.ifmsystem.com

still points to the old address ..

;; ANSWER SECTION:

http://www.ifmsystem.com.

897 IN A 66.149.60.242

Whichever registrar you use, they will need to create a glue record for ns1.ifmsystem.com which points to 67.35.69.77. This is so that anyone querying a host in the ifmsystem.com zone will be able to resolve the name server to whom the query should be forwarded to.

All you should need to do is tell your registrar that you are hosting your own domain, your name server is ns1.ifmsystem.com and the IP address is 67.35.69.77. When this is in place then the parent zone will be able to send referals to your server, which does work by the way.

[chris@uranium chris]$ dig @67.35.69.77 ifmsystem.com any

; <<>> DiG 9.2.1 <<>> @67.35.69.77 ifmsystem.com any
;; global options: printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 28394
;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 5, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 4

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;ifmsystem.com. IN ANY

;; ANSWER SECTION:
ifmsystem.com. 3600 IN NS robinson.ifmsystem.com.
ifmsystem.com. 3600 IN NS ns1.ifmsystem.com.
ifmsystem.com. 3600 IN NS ns2.ifmsystem.com.
ifmsystem.com. 3600 IN NS

http://www.ifmsystem.com.

ifmsystem.com. 3600 IN SOA robinson.ifmsystem.com. administrator.ifmsystem.com. 10 900 600 86400 3600

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
robinson.ifmsystem.com. 3600 IN A 192.168.0.190
ns1.ifmsystem.com. 3600 IN A 67.35.69.77
ns2.ifmsystem.com. 3600 IN A 67.35.69.77

http://www.ifmsystem.com.

3600 IN A 67.35.69.77

;; Query time: 148 msec
;; SERVER: 67.35.69.77#53(67.35.69.77)
;; WHEN: Wed May 26 14:24:28 2004
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 222


Chris.


**********************
Chris Andrew, CCNA, CCSA
chris@iproute.co.uk
**********************

 

[josel]

Chris,

I have called godaddy.com and they keep on sending me to their online interface where I am able to change the glue record (or the primary and seconday DNS) for my domain.

They only accept fully qualified domain names and not IP addresses ... So, when I enter ns1.ifmsystem.com as my primary IP address, I get an error saying that ns1.ifmsystem.com is unavailable.

I called their tech support and they know less than I do :-(

SIDE QUESTION: Are you using linux or some flavor of unix?


Thanks;


Jose Lerebours

KNOWLEDGE: Something you can give away endlessly and gain more of it in the process! - Jose Lerebours

 

[ChrisAC]

Oh dear! Sounds like they haven't got a clue. The whole point of a glue record to resolve a name server to an IP address so that the server can be reached. They managed to put a glue record in for

http://www.ifmsystem.com.

Give them a slap or just move your registry to someone who knows what they are talking about.

SIDE ANSWER: I'm running Linux.

Chris.


**********************
Chris Andrew, CCNA, CCSA
chris@iproute.co.uk
**********************

 

[josel]

Chris,

I called them back and after laying out my intend to drop them, I managed to get a technician that was able to tell me where to go and do ...

After this, I felt pretty darnm stupid to find how simple it was.

I have been directed to the wrong spot all together (at least to do what you have repeately suggested). I am now waiting the regulatory 48 hours for this to replicate and see what gives.

Thanks to this post, I learn a few stuff (including that handy 'dig' command). I played around DNS so much that I understand it better now than I did before. I have also a grown interest in DNS configuration that I did not have before.

And of course, I now know where to configure the glue record on godaddy.com

Many thanks. I would have not been able to get this done without your pointing this out to me.

Regards;


Jose Lerebours


KNOWLEDGE: Something you can give away endlessly and gain more of it in the process! - Jose Lerebours

 

[ChrisAC]

Jose,

Good work. I'll keep and eye out for that and hopefully all will be well.

It's a pleasure to be of some help.

Chris.

PS. You may find this link useful for your interest in DNS ....

http://www.acmebw.com/askmrdns/archive.php

**********************
Chris Andrew, CCNA, CCSA
chris@iproute.co.uk
**********************

 

[ndunaz]

Jose, I am going to have to do the same thing soon and my registrar is also Godaddy. Can you please let me know the info on where and what to do with the glue record?

Thank you in advance.

Nancy

 

[GlenJohnson]

FYI,

C:\>ping

http://www.ifmsystem.com

Pinging

http://www.ifmsystem.com

[66.149.60.242] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 199.174.117.225: TTL expired in transit.
Reply from 199.174.117.225: TTL expired in transit.
Reply from 199.174.117.225: TTL expired in transit.
Reply from 199.174.117.225: TTL expired in transit.

Ping statistics for 66.149.60.242:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

Notice the difference?

Glen A. Johnson
If you're from Northern Illinois/Southern Wisconsin feel free to join the Tek-Tips in Chicago, Illinois Forum.

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Johnson Computers

 

[ChrisAC]

Glen,

This is showing a different address for

http://www.ifmsystem.com

because the registrar is still showing the old glue record for the designated name server. This result is not coming from the zone file for ifmsystem.com but from the parent zone.

If you query Jose's server then you will see the correct address.

[chris@uranium chris]$ dig @67.35.69.77

http://www.ifmsystem.com

; <<>> DiG 9.2.1 <<>> @67.35.69.77

http://www.ifmsystem.com

;; global options: printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 50116
;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;

http://www.ifmsystem.com.

IN A

;; ANSWER SECTION:

http://www.ifmsystem.com.

3600 IN A 67.35.69.77

Chris.


**********************
Chris Andrew, CCNA, CCSA
chris@iproute.co.uk
**********************

 

[josel]

ndunaz,

Sorry for such delayed response ... hope it comes to you timely and of use. (away for the long weekend)

It was pretty easy once I found where to go. Follow these steps:

STEPS:
1. Log in
2. Go to Manage Domains
3. Click on the domain name you want to change
This changes navigation option on right hand side
4. At bottom of NavBar (right), expand Domain Host Summary
5. Click link to edit/modify detail as shown


Once you go through the editing, your record will be off limit (non-accessible) for a few minutes. It your changes do not stick (it does not save your changes, try adding a new host and then remove the old one - if you have an old domain at all).

After this, all you need to do is set the nameservers. Nameservers can be set within "Manage Domains" as well.

Hope this helps!



Jose Lerebours



KNOWLEDGE: Something you can give away endlessly and gain more of it in the process! - Jose Lerebours