home networking - Help please!

[DanPopescu]

I have 2 computers: one desktop and one laptop. Both connect to internet through a router. Everything is running fine. On desktop I have Windows xp SP2 pro and on the laptop I have XP SP2 home.
Both of them are part of the same workgroup. From desktop I can access the laptop but from the laptop I can't access the desktop computer.
I have the following message: "\\desktop_computer is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if you have access permisions. Login failure: the user has not been granted the requested logon type at this computer"

What should I do?
Thanks.

 

[linney]

These are helpful sites.

Simple File Sharing- enabled

http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp/filesharing.htm

Simple File Sharing - disabled

http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_filesharing/index.htm

http://www.michna.com/kb/wxnet.htm

Look at any firewalling problems and make sure you are allowing yourself access.

 

[DanPopescu]

I read everything from above but I could not find a solution to my problem. I disabled the firewall and nothing - the same message appears on my laptop
somebody has an another ideea?
Thank you

 

[bcastner]

. Make sure Netbios over TCP/IP is enabled
. Make sure File and Printer Sharing is checkmarked
. Symchronize username and passwords on both machines. The laptop users should have accounts on the Desktop, and vice-versa.

 

[fz6yamaha]

I am having the same problem and I have tried all of this, well in my case I can not see the desktop from my laptop, but I can see the laptop from my desktop.I set up the IP address manually and they both work great on the internet, from the laptop I try to ping the desktop and it's not posible. I thought could it be the adapter, so I try wireless and did not work either. I can ping everything from my laptop, but the desktop can not ping the laptop, like it would not exist. When I check my network places, I can see the PC but when I click on it I get that message that you may not have permision.

Tcp is setup manually.
Netbios is up on both.
Workgroup name is ok
Both computers surf the net
Laptop has sp2, desktop does not (but the problem is from the laptop to the desktop) (rethinking now-this could be it)
I will try to install sp2, but I do not think it is, because I have had some other computers install on this computer b4. I will post later, in the meandwhile pleae HELPPP.

Thanks

 

[firewolfrl]

In a nutshell you are running into permissions problems because of the XP Home.
for the home machine you need these two programs

http://www.dougknox.com/xp/tips/xp_home_sectab.htm

this will give you security options

http://www.snapfiles.com/get/accountview.html

this will give you management options

the links linney gave you are very good and can explain way better than I can.

this site will explain alot

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;304040

I have two XP Home machines communicating as though they are XP pro

 

[linney]

You cannot view other workgroup computers on the network on a Windows XP-based computer

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;903267&FR=1&PA=1&SD=HSCH

Have a look at the User Rights in Group Policy as they control Network access.

Computer Configuration\Windows Settings\Security Settings\Local Policies\User Rights Assignment

The Everyone group must be present in "Access this computer from the network"

Deny access to this computer from the Network - remove guests.

Log on Locally - see what is there maybe even adding the Everyone group?.

 

[linney]

Is this the name of one of your computers "desktop_computer"?

Perhaps if you shorten the name length it might help?

http://www.cramsession.com/boards/vbm.asp?m=778815

DNS Naming Restrictions.

http://www.microsoft.com/resources/...Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-us/prjj_ipa_hgjg.asp

 

[firewolfrl]

hey Linney thats great advice xp home doesn't open the group police editor (MS planned that so us network guys would get head injuries pounding our heads on a wall)

LOL...other than that ...great advice

 

[DanPopescu]

the names are dan_p for desktop and toshiba for laptop

 

[linney]

firewolfrl",

This a half XP Home and half XP Pro setup (from my reading), so at least "DanPopescu" can check the Group Policy on the Pro machine.

Incidentally, you can do a little bit with XP Home via this Doug Knox Utility, not that it is much use in this case.

http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm

"DanPopescu",

What is confusing is that the message being received is "\\desktop_computer is not accessible......." If that is not the name is it the "Computer Description" or a pseudo name invented by you?

 

[DanPopescu]

pseudoname invented by me

 

[DanPopescu]

I'm sorry but I do not know how to check the Group Policy on the Pro machine. I couldn't find it

Thanks again for all your help

 

[linney]

On Pro type Gpedit.msc in the Start Run box.

Navigate to Computer Configuration\Windows Settings\Security Settings\Local Policies\User Rights Assignment


For a quick tutorial on Group Policy try these -

http://www.theeldergeek.com/group_policy_for_windows_xp_prof.htm

http://www.sans.org/rr/paper.php?id=313

 

[DanPopescu]

When I try to add the laptop to local security settings and I hit apply and a window appears: Failed to save Local Policy Database. The name of that window is "Security templates

Also I have allready added 2 things that are allready saved they do not have a name they have numbers.
*S-1-5-21-1060284298-1383384898-1801674531-1006 and
*S-1-5-21-1060284298-1383384898-1801674531-1004

Do I need this?

So how I can add the laptop over here?

 

[linney]

You've lost me a bit here, adding a machine is more to do with Domain and Active Directory.

Just concentrate on the Guest and Everyone Groups in the User Rights Assignments.

 

[DanPopescu]

Sorry for my explanation
I have not added anything
in "access this computer from the network" I have already those 2 things
And I can not add the laptop

 

[linney]

That is normal. I just wanted you to check those groups weren't being blocked in there.

Did you ever run through this site and fill in the question and answers?

http://www.michna.com/kb/wxnet.htm

 

[firewolfrl]

Try this (gotta love the longshot ideas)

create a user in the pro machine...That is the same name as the user that logs on on the home machine

then hide the user from the welcome screen using Dougs utility

http://www.dougknox.com/xp/scripts_desc/xp_hide_users.htm

or you can do it the manual way

http://www.tweakxp.com/article36754.aspx

then in the pro machine in "control panel" "administrative tools" " computer management" "local users and groups"
go to the hidden account you just created and open the dialog screen
go to "member of" then remove "users' and add "administrator"

then go to the drive you want to share and share the user in both the the security settings and the sharing settings

that may work

 

[impreza18blue]

Hi, I had a similar problem. As well as making sure they are in the same workgroup, you must also make sure they both log in with the same username and password.