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Hipath Systems and Panasonic
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Ok...
Here is the situation....We have 4 branches each one with 1 hipath. We would like to try with another vendor in 1 additional branch, and there we would like to intall a Panasonic TDEXXX.
Our carrier gives us a private link between each 5 branches, I would like to know what should be the first thing to do to connect our Hipath and Panasonic system ? Would I need a physical connection between them (like a T1) or could I take advantage of the private link ( it is 2Mbps link) ?
I heard about QSIG protocol but I have never used it. Our Hipaths are connected using H.323-Q with Cornet-NQ.
I´m not very familiarized with PBX systems..sorry I would appreciate your thoughts...
Here is the situation....We have 4 branches each one with 1 hipath. We would like to try with another vendor in 1 additional branch, and there we would like to intall a Panasonic TDEXXX.
Our carrier gives us a private link between each 5 branches, I would like to know what should be the first thing to do to connect our Hipath and Panasonic system ? Would I need a physical connection between them (like a T1) or could I take advantage of the private link ( it is 2Mbps link) ?
I heard about QSIG protocol but I have never used it. Our Hipaths are connected using H.323-Q with Cornet-NQ.
I´m not very familiarized with PBX systems..sorry I would appreciate your thoughts...
Silverblade
Technical User
I don't know how siemens is now-days with ip links, but some years back they could only "talk" cornet over ip. Which is a siemens proprietary protocol.
I would guess they should have SIP trunking by now. If so then that would be the way to go I think
I would guess they should have SIP trunking by now. If so then that would be the way to go I think
The HiPath's could stay connected together as they are now but I don't know enough about the 3800 to speak intelligently - I have a 150, which was a precursor to the 3000 series, but... I don't know if the 3800 can do SIP - possibly with the right card - maybe an HG1500 or whatever board they are using nowadays. I know for sure a T1 would probably work set up as indvidual trunks - if I understand it correctly QSIG is a protocol you would use on those individual trunks - similar to Cornet but more generic. I'm assuming if you have a central voicemail system you're going to want to have some means of passing the MWI indicators and stuff across the link. If the Panasonic site has its own voicemail that might not be as much of a problem.
You'll have to wait for someone who knows more about the 3800 trunking options to chime in and see what they have to say about the newer IP trunking stuff.
You'll have to wait for someone who knows more about the 3800 trunking options to chime in and see what they have to say about the newer IP trunking stuff.
Siemensgeezer
Technical User
The 3800 is capable of Ip trunking in conjunction with the other hipath systems, as well as SIP. To integrate that into a Panasonic would be questionable.
Any IP connectivity will have to be achieved with a HG1500 card for each system and it has to be licensed accordingly from V5.0 upwards. Needless to say that the Panasonic will in theory be able to connect and the link be established.
The HG1500 could be programmed to point the relevant traffic to the Panasonic node and so on, i would be sceptical of the chances of it working and then again why would you go down a route that would be unknown and with a likelyhood of failure from the start.
The main problem with anything like this is that each vendor Siemens/Panasonic will not support any integration between the two.
Qsig.
you are not going to be able, even if you connect to the Panasonic system with Qsig (not actual Qsig but Hipath Hybid) to have any feature transparency.
I have in the past set up Qsig connections between Mitel and Siemens Hipath, and ISDX and Siemens Hipath. Needless to say if you want to be able to make a phone ring and transfer a call then this is a good option.
My advice would be to install a Siemens Hipath and Hg1500 card, in the new site, you know it is going to work and be easily integrated into the current network.
Alternatively why not just install IP phones from the 3800 in this site? License the 3800 with the relevant license and then remotely connect the two.
There would be no need for any system at the new site. Also this would be possible with just a VPN connection, dependable on the bandwidth.
The real question is why would you install a Panasonic at all into an existing Hipath network?
If you are looking at integration issues such as outlook and the like then the Siemens Hipath does this also, for existing sites a server can be used to provide these services.
Again the new site could look at the Openscape MX/LX product which can be introduced into an current hipath network.
Unless you were looking to change all of them out at a future date then it does not make sense?
If you are having difficulties within the existing set up, or need further technical assistance then please feel free to contact me.
Any IP connectivity will have to be achieved with a HG1500 card for each system and it has to be licensed accordingly from V5.0 upwards. Needless to say that the Panasonic will in theory be able to connect and the link be established.
The HG1500 could be programmed to point the relevant traffic to the Panasonic node and so on, i would be sceptical of the chances of it working and then again why would you go down a route that would be unknown and with a likelyhood of failure from the start.
The main problem with anything like this is that each vendor Siemens/Panasonic will not support any integration between the two.
Qsig.
you are not going to be able, even if you connect to the Panasonic system with Qsig (not actual Qsig but Hipath Hybid) to have any feature transparency.
I have in the past set up Qsig connections between Mitel and Siemens Hipath, and ISDX and Siemens Hipath. Needless to say if you want to be able to make a phone ring and transfer a call then this is a good option.
My advice would be to install a Siemens Hipath and Hg1500 card, in the new site, you know it is going to work and be easily integrated into the current network.
Alternatively why not just install IP phones from the 3800 in this site? License the 3800 with the relevant license and then remotely connect the two.
There would be no need for any system at the new site. Also this would be possible with just a VPN connection, dependable on the bandwidth.
The real question is why would you install a Panasonic at all into an existing Hipath network?
If you are looking at integration issues such as outlook and the like then the Siemens Hipath does this also, for existing sites a server can be used to provide these services.
Again the new site could look at the Openscape MX/LX product which can be introduced into an current hipath network.
Unless you were looking to change all of them out at a future date then it does not make sense?
If you are having difficulties within the existing set up, or need further technical assistance then please feel free to contact me.
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Hi Siemensgeezer,
Hipath systems are very stable, we have a 3800 cabinet and 2036 switch. Actually, we are using remote phones registered in our Hipath 3800 through a VPN and they are working fine, but if our Hipath 3800 gets down that branch would not have phones.
We are thinking to install a PBX less expensive, that´s why we are evaluating a Panasonic.
How can I contact you ?
Thanks...
Hipath systems are very stable, we have a 3800 cabinet and 2036 switch. Actually, we are using remote phones registered in our Hipath 3800 through a VPN and they are working fine, but if our Hipath 3800 gets down that branch would not have phones.
We are thinking to install a PBX less expensive, that´s why we are evaluating a Panasonic.
How can I contact you ?
Thanks...
Siemensgeezer
Technical User
You can contact me at technical@lkscomms.co.uk
or 07790498850
it would be good to get a grasp of what you have and what you are trying to achieve?
or 07790498850
it would be good to get a grasp of what you have and what you are trying to achieve?
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