Help with BCM routing

[knbink]

Hi all

Can anyone help me out with Universal Dialing Plan or how to setup CDP with 6 sites and each site with same extensions.

Thank you.

 

[knbink]

I know I can do all that.
But we realy want to do UDP.

If you can help me out with the settings I will appreciate it.

Thanks.

 

[vztech]

I had 8 sites setup using CDP with no issues with centralized Voice mail.
Main site 57xx
Site A 563X
Site B 564X
Site C 566X etc.

My dest code pointed to my VOIP trunks
57A
563A
564A etc.

as 56belair said.....add your IP trunk routing under Telephony

make sure the payload is the same on each end
I never used UDP..

It's only dialtone!!!

 

[knbink]

ok let me explain myself a little bit better.
What i want to do is to have the same extensions on each site.
You might ask why, in order to have same configuration on each site, for example, 2001-2050 Inside Sales department, 2051-2100 outside sale department etc.

This is why i want to make same extensions on each site.

Can i use cdp in order to make the routing from site to site, where each site has the same extensions ex. 2001-2100 Site A, 2001-2100 Site B.

Thanks.

 

[telcodog]

You can use CDP if you want but you will still be required to dial some kind of access code for each site and then do the routing to get you there, That's an awful lot of work and it has to be duplicated at each site so whenever a change is made on one, you have a lot to do at the other sites as well.

Your best bet is to use UDP. It's a lot simpler to program. just pick a network access code (any digit that is not in use on your systems and is available in all the others). Once you decide that, pick your 3 digit node identifier codes and assign one to each site (that's your location code). Set your Private DN lenghth to the combined total of your network code, node identifier and DN lenghth at each site. As an example, if you choose 8 as your network code, users would dial 8-XXX-XXXX (if you use 4 digit DNs) so your length would be 8. Then set up you routing table with an entry for each site as 8XXX and absorb 1 digit.

Don't forget to do the VOIP trunk routing as well.

That should do it.

 

[knbink]

Which code should ut go in the voip trunk routing?

And also is it possible to use 2 digit codes for the location code or it has to be 3?

So just tell me if I understand this right, if I choose 8, in the routing I put 8 as dialing code for voip trunks right?

If I understood wrong, can you give me one example of settings for Site A, I choose 8 to be access code, and I choose 401( or if possible 40) to be location code and the extension is 2001.

how are the settings for Site B to access site A?

Thanks in advance.

 

[telcodog]

You have to use 3 digit codes (according to the manual). You can try 2 if you want, but I would get it working with 3 first.

Your network code is 8 so it's the same in your voip trunk routing table. You would put in 8401 for the routing code and put in the ip address of site B (along with all the other required parameters for voip trunking) and just add to it for other sites, like 8402 for site C, 8403 for site D and just send them to the correct ip address.

In your regular routing table, you would put in 8401 and absorb digits set to 1 (takes away the 8) and send it to the voip trunk group via route XXX (it will likely be blocA or B).
All you need is one route for all of them. And like your voip routing table, just add destination codes to the other sites as needed. 8402 absorb 1 route 002 (or whatever route you select), 8403 absorb 1 route 002 etc etc.

The access to other sites is exactly the same. You assign a unique 3 digit code to each site and just duplicate the process.

Just don't forget to set up target lines for the incoming calls too. If you use MCDN, you can use the private received digits. If you don't have the MCDN licenses, you will need to use the public received digits.

 

[knbink]

Ok I will try that.

Is there a way to get in touch with you because you are the only one that could help me out with UDP.

 

[knbink]

ok i tried, but for some reason it doesnt work.
here is the settings:

Site A, Location Code 400.
Site B, Location Code 310.

In IP Trunk table of Site A i have,
Site B, 8310, 172.18.1.200 (ip address of the actual site B)

in dialing Plan->Private Network i have the following settings:
Private Network Type UDP, Private Network ID 1, Location Code 400, Private DN Length 4.

In Dialing Plan Routing Table i have the following:
Destination Code 8310, route 005, Absorb 1
In routes i have, 005, Use Pool C( VoIP trunks), Private.

On the other site B I have the following settings:
in IP Trunk Site A, 8400, 172.16.1.200 (which is the actual ip of the Site A)

Dialing Plan->Private Network i have
Private Network Type UDP, Private network id 2, Location Code 310, DN Length 4.

In Routing i have:
Destination Code 8400, 002, 1
In routes i have
002, Bloc A, Private.

What do i have wrong?

When i try dialing from Site A to Site B, 83105034, which is the correct extension, as soon as i dial 8310503 the call is disconnected.

Same from the other side.

Any suggestions?

 

[telcodog]

What does your monitor say you are sending?

 

[knbink]

It shows when I dial 83102230 it shows 310223 and than it disconnects.
I as soon as I dial the last 3 it disconnects.

I don't know what can be the problem. Checked the international dialing it doesn't have anything about 6 digits or 7 digits.

Any suggestions why it doesn't work?

 

[telcodog]

Did you set up the target lines on the receiving systems? Do you have the MCDN keycodes installed?

 

[knbink]

I don't have mcdn licence keycodes.
What do u need to setup for the target lines?
I have set them up for 4 digit access same as the extension number. I don't know if you meant about that or not

So each extension has target line added.

 

[telcodog]

If you don't have MCDN, you must the public received digits field, not private.

If I remember correctly, you set them up with the location code and ext number and assign them to ring the respective set, the same way you would if you had DIDs coming in on a PRI.

To be sure, hse the monitor to see what is being received. That will tell you how to set them up.

 

[knbink]

Ok so if I see the monitor to send 3102230 than that should be the public receiver for the extension 2230.

But I tried making that, but it does not accept more than 4 digits.
How to make it when it does not accept?

 

[telcodog]

Public received number length under Telephony>Dialing Plan>Public Network. Change it to something like 10 (it's the maximum number of digits you can enter). It will give you a warning about deleting numbers that don't match but don't worry about it. It's only a problem if you're reducing the number.

 

[knbink]

But that will not change the actual extensions in the system right?

Ok I will try that. Also I checked it is possible to use only 2 digits for location code. It accepts that, when I was monitoring the dialing it sends only the 2 digits.

Is it possible somehow to add you on my email so don't have to wait all the time on the forum, because I can see that you understamd udp dialing and that's what I want to fix it.

 

[SupportDude]

Pretty sure you're going to need MCDN for this to work as Private UDP correctly.

UDP: the system combines the private access code length + location code length + telephone DN length. When a
call comes in, the system recognizes the leading digits as a private call and removes (truncates) them, leaving the
telephone DN, which is recognized as the private DN length.

Without the MCDN, it most likely doesn't interpret the digit length correctly. There is one hard rule when configuring private networking on North American BCM profiles and that is ... the number of digits you can dial will be determined by the private received number length of the BCM originating the call.
I think you can download an MCDN Try N Buy keycode from Avaya to test it out.

You can also achieve your goal without using UDP and just using des codes and building an IP route with the DN Type set to Public.
The key in doing this is making sure the digits match to the Public Received Number on the destination site, which may already be in use by DID numbers.


-SD-

http://www.mysupportguy.net