I know, but I tried to tell him. I had a "Important" client that wanted to install Outlook, and run it along with GW. He has a NT machine w/sp6a. Well to make a long story short, it did not work. Now, I have big problems. I kept getting a bunch of errors and gw would not open. Now gw will open (after much work, and little hair left), but I get 2 errors. Not sure as to the exact words that are in there, I will have to go back to the PC and write them down. But, I have an idea. The first one it something about not being able to load the address book. The second one is something about the attachment programs not being the same??(<-will have to check that one, and get back) When he goes into groupwise and trys to open an email, the text part of the mail shows, but no attachment window. If he tries to send on, the only button that is "dark" is the cancel button. But, the address book is there. I have everything in the "mail" icon on the control panel that I need, (ie novell address, novell personal, and one more that I can't remember, but it is the same on all the other boxes that I have in the plant. Any Ideas?? ( I will get back with more info, when I get the guts up to go back to his PC).