Give 'em a candy and just look

[sleew]

Well we all know that talking about Microsoft like "big fat bad guy" is more than popular for last 10 years. But did anyone had thoughts about how it would look like if Linux would have 90% of market? When somebody says: "MS is manipulating us" or "MS is going to rule us!" does he think about what kind of people are leading Linux or Novell, infact, does anyone knows what is the name of Linux's "Bill Gates"? His name is Linus Torwald as i recall and he do it for free. Ok, he is cool guy but there are companies that lives from that, that are billing support, if you want support you got to pay $100, i think, for your Red Hat? It's defenitevly not expensive as Windows but someone is driving really nice car in any case. I'm doing MS products but i'm not "addicted" to MS and i am anti-globalist and would be very sorry if MS would be only OS on the market; we realize that lot's of bad thinks are happening around M$ but just think for a moment how world would look like if Linux people would take the market. How do you know that they would not become greedy, that they would say: "OK, we won't do "this" or "that" and we will loose 5 billion dollars and 1th place in market but this world will stay better and cleaner and we will have clean conscience". Ha Ha! They would drop the ring, right? I'm mean it's a buissnies!!! If you don’t take you will loose and it's the 1th rule in "making money", we are talking about ego civilisation we are living in. Did you try to think about some bad sides of OpenSource or does anyone knows what is exact policy of RedHat or Suse, how it would function if Linux would be your only choice?

Sometimes i'm not so worried about certainly not frustrated Bill Gates, instead of that i'm worried what would do those people that never tasted the ring of supremacy.....

I don't state for MS but i like to KNOW. Srdjan Katic
Microsoft Department Manager
Compaq & Microsoft TS
sleew@infosky.net

 

[sleipnir214]

Is there a coherent question or comment somewhere in there? Want the best answers? Ask the best questions:

http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

TANSTAAFL!

 

[carrr]

Yeah. When I got to the small paragraph at the end, I thought for sure it was a plug for a Peter Jackson film...but....

 

[xutopia]

I don't think that with linux anyone will be one day stuck with Suse or Red Hat as their only choice.

If you read and understand the GPL (General Public Licence) you will know that if you are unsatisfied with Linux you can get the source code and create your own version that would best suit your needs.

No one can say that about Windows. Gary

http://www.xutopia.com

Haran

 

[sleipnir214]

xutopia:
You actually parsed the original post? Cool! Want the best answers? Ask the best questions:

http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

TANSTAAFL!

 

[CajunCenturion]

After reading that post, (1th rule ??) -- I always thought it was 1st rule. Maybe MS is trying to redefine that too.

Anyway, it sounds just like something you'd hear from MS Technical Support. Good Luck
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As a circle of light increases so does the circumference of darkness around it. - Albert Einstein

 

[sleew]

Cajun> i do MS but english is not my native, not even close, and there are other mistakes in my post i saw after but point is the same as if would be that i wrote "first" like i should. Anyway, we from MS just can't do it.

Sleipnir> Is there a coherent question or comment somewhere in there? I also posed that question because i don't know much about Linux or other vendors policy and i'm interesting to find out(tanx xutopia, i will read GPL), also i'm borring with same discussion every day: " Bill is the worst and so on..." I would just like to know was someone allready thinking about "what if Linux rule?". I don't state for anything like i sad and i can't 'cause i don't know. Maybe there could be some interesting thoughts about it or even concrete info. For example, is there possibility that is allowed that in 5 years eg. RedHat change their policy, do they have legal right to change there sweety policy one day?

Xutopia> You can get the source code and create your own version that would best suit your needs> I barely know to install it. What about some poor end-user that just work some stuff on his computer? He don't even know what is OpenSource or code...

Carrr > I thought for sure it was a plug for a Peter Jackson film > i just mean -
Srdjan Katic
Microsoft Department Manager
Compaq & Microsoft TS
sleew@infosky.net

 

[xutopia]

Sleew,

>You can get the source code and create your own version that would best suit your needs> I barely know to install it. What about some poor end-user that just work some stuff on his computer? He don't even know what is OpenSource or code...

Red Hat cannot change his policy nor can any other Linux provider. The software will always remain free and people will always have access to the source code because they are bound to it legally from the GPL. The GPL is a little bit of legal agreement that whoever changes the source code must provide the community with that source code, they cannot charge for the product itself but can charge to provide the CDs or bandwith used to download it, they can charge for service but they cannot under any circumstances make the product closed source ever.

Even if you cannot change the software yourself because you are not a programmer, chances are if you have a good idea of what you want and express it the right way to the Open Source Community you will get the changes in time. The OSC does everything in its power to create great software that remains free forever.

Installing and using linux has never been so easy. Try downloading the latest version and see how nice it is. Gary

http://www.xutopia.com

Haran

 

[sleew]

In that case they have my full support... i was amiga fan once and had A1200 & A500+ (sleew was captain worm, that's how i got my nick) so whole that "fight for right think" philosophy is well known to me. I was just wondering is Linux true market balance that people where waiting for or it's that just another game of few people. My boss is Unix guy so all i know about Unix/Linux/VMS are only nice stories. It was little suspicious to me. If you maybe know is it true that Microsoft owns part of SCO Unix for a long time? Some guy came from USA with that story. He does not look like some liar, he looked pretty serious when he said that. Srdjan Katic
Microsoft Department Manager
Compaq & Microsoft TS
sleew@infosky.net

 

[skiflyer]

Unix and Linux are very different things.

The big catch, as stated above, is that Linux is 100% open source. It's part of the license, no matter who repackages, supports and sells Linux, we'll be able to the source code.

Now we might not be smart enough to figure out that source and change it, but it means the business oppurtunity always exists for those who are to modify it and do what they want to it before repackaging and modifying and supporting it.

Does anyone know how these operating systems like Lindows play into the mix? Do they remain open source, or after a certain level of removal from Linux do they manage to close the code?

-Rob