getting the DLS to play nice with the OS4k 2

[bulwynkl]

thread965-1765035

Hi Folks,

been thrown in the deep end here - trying to get a DLS and OS4k configured to implement the deployment of around 50 new IP phones (Openscape 15, HFA). Not enjoying the quality of the documentation available, highly unlikely to be afforded the ~550 euro cost of the unify DLS training...


I have somehow managed to make the softgate on the OS4k aware of the DLS. I've seen hints that the OS4k can sort of act like an element manager via the assistant. but none of it seems to be working...

Can anyone advise if I'm on the right track? or even spell out the workflow required to get the system working?

ultimate aim is to get the system to the point where when a new phone is plugged in and given a number, it gets a software upgrade and connects to the OS4k and comes into service.


I'm pretty sure I've got the DHCP scope configured correctly - provides the DLS address successfully, can see and manage the phones from the DLS.
I've had some success getting software auto-deployed
I've had very little joy getting the phones fully configured - presumably because the phones or the DLS aren't talking to the OS4k...

 

[bulwynkl]

Actually - much simpler question (!)

how do I get the gateway IP address into the phone? (semi-)automatically?

 

[sbcsu]

The provider OID (Siemens) needs to be stored in the DHCP server, when a Unify phone is plugged in looking for an address the DHCP server should recognize it as being a Unify/Siemens device and give it the correct attributes.
I will have a look for some documentation but it will be later on.

 

[donb01]

Yes, you have to set up your DHCP scopes to hand out that information, and you should run your VOIP on a separate VLAN so you can give the traffic priority.

Here is some stuff from my notes - I'm not the one who set this up.... (Make a backup of your network config before making any changes!)

Can you please change the DLS IP server entry for the Siemens 003 tag  to 10.1.9.162 for all of the applicable scopes . (My DLS IP address - use yours)


Working on it now.  Do I need to keep the sdlp:// before the IP address?  (Answer = Yes).

This stuff should probably be on your switch ports that support phones (DO NOT add these things to any of the switch ports the PBX (STMI, NCUI, APE, DSCXL) is using (these features should be removed from these PBX ports, but if they are on there it's probably not working right)

LLDP transmit and receive 
network-policy  (probably for VLAN assignment)
Lldp med tlv-select

Don Bruechert, Voice Comm Analyst II
CareTech Solutions @ Holy Family Memorial
Manitowoc, WI, USA

 

[bulwynkl]

Thanks for the info - however, the DHCP is already set up correctly I can talk to the phones just fine (and the target system is already configured - we are adding new phones to a previously manually configured system)

It's the configuration of the DLS I need help with, getting the DLS to talk to the OS4k, getting the DLS to auto-install it's config to the phones (and kick off software upgrades etc) when a new phone is added...

I've made some progress - for example the use of %e164% as a placeholder (macro) in the template for the reg-number...

will be taking notes as I go...

 

[sbcsu]

PDF in Tonido/Docs/DLS
Should assist with DHCP and setup of DLS

 

[bulwynkl]

Hmmm.

don't seem to be able to login with the password mentioned in thread965-1771698


is it the DLS manual from Siemens/Unify? Deployment-Service_V7_en.pdf

already reading that - it's pretty useless. Oh, don't get me wrong - the info may well be in there - it's just ... awful...

I started life as an engineer - I used to write like that. Then I started dealing with customers, and being on the receiving end of documentation like that - now... nope. uhuh.

My advice to any young engineer - learn how to communicate.


May all be moot now - I think I've worked out what to do - it all comes down to templates - setting the Reg-address in the template then applying the template to the discovered IP devices, ditto using the %e164% value for the reg-number placeholder...

still no closer to getting it to do it automatically when a new phone is installed and given a number. but hey...

 

[donb01]

Make templates and combine templates into profiles, and make one profile for each phone type and gateway address (i.e. OS40 5-13).

I don't recommend autodownload from the switch - mine is manual, and I was told it takes a lot of effort to keep everything synched. You can just plug in a phone and if the DLS stuff is set up right it will show up with its MAC address and then you can assign your stuff. If you already build a record for the phone in DLS then when it is first plugged in everything will happen on autopilot. When we first put our 1100 phones into the DLS they were all new in the box. We zapped all the serial numbers into an excel spreadsheet that already had our station database in it and them imported it into the DLS. Since then I only make small changes at a time so it goes really fast, and if a phone fails I can clone a phone in the DLS and then put in the new MAC address and then send the phone to the end user and tell them to swap it out. When they do it will switch to the new phone and you can just delete the old one. The other cool thing is if you need to make changes to a whole bunch of phones you just edit a template, assign it to their profile(s), and then just reapply the profiles to a whole batch of phones at a crack... Once you get used to it it is cooler than sliced bread! )

I also use it to mass deploy firmware when I decide to roll out something newer.

Don Bruechert, Voice Comm Analyst II
CareTech Solutions @ Holy Family Memorial
Manitowoc, WI, USA

 

[sbcsu]

https://hipath.tonidoid.com

CLICK ON GUEST LOGIN

User: hipath4000
Pass: hipath4000

 

[bulwynkl]

 

[bulwynkl]

well colour me surprised - that DLS release notes PDF is a regular gold mine. I'd seen one or two release notes that had no real value and dismissed them. My mistake...

thanks.

 

[thepfy]

I have some DLS v7 training materials I can upload to Tonidoid.
It may be the weekend before I can upload them though.

 

[Iamnothere]

This Unify course is NOT awful: OpenScape Deployment Service for OpenScape 4000 - Basics (OS4DLSSDS)

Good Luck!