G3 Flash Backups 1

[wcmarques]

Can anyone point me to directions on making a backup copy of the flash memory for my Definity G3 so i can store it offsite?

 

[phoneguy55]

save trans
save ann

Then swap the cards and do it again.

 

[wcmarques]

Can I do this during the day and it not affect my users?

 

[phoneguy55]

yup. save ann can take a long time to run so do plan on doing any changes during that time.

 

[wcmarques]

good deal. thanks for the quick reply. should have my spare card in a day or two and i'll give it a shot.

 

[AvayaTier3]

tn750 and saving announcements

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tn750 and tn750B are over 14 years old.
They were designed for g3si/csi/R systems and each of these boards lose announcements when powered down or unseated.
s75 r1v3 to g3v2 software (very old) allowed saving all announcements from one board to a tape. If you wanted to backup more than one board, you would need several tapes. The design intent was to have one tn750 or
tn750B restore automatically from the tape. This board would be in the lowest numbered slot used out of all the installed tn750 or tn750b boards.
The other boards would also allow restore of announcements but you would have to manually swap the tape. You would need one tape for each board that you wanted to save.

Beginning with g3v3 the same type process was used but with flash cards.
g3R used tapes, hard disks, removable media disks for this and also designed to only have one board to be automatically restored on power up.

On power removal or reseating of these boards, all announcements would be lost. At this point they could be restored or re-recorded manually. Only the first board in the lowest numbered slot would automatically restore only if the announcements from this board had previously been saved and were stored on the currently plugged in media.
1. automatically restored 10 minutes after power applied or pack plugged into slot.
2. manual save / restore "save / restore announcement which_board xxxx to / from which_media"
3. You would need one tape / rem-media / disk / flash card for each board that you wanted to save.
4. status card and list configuration software long are commands used to see if announcements are saved and the timestamps showing when saved.
5. save and restore takes 45 to 50 minutes per tn750 board

tn750C boards came out in 1994 and when you recorded announcements on them it was permanent. Announcements would stay on board until deleted, changed, or erased. You could unplug a tn750C, put it on a shelf and not plug it back into the switch for months. When plugged back in all previous announcements were still on the board. tn750C announcements could be saved on flash, disk, tape, removable media but was not designed to be automatically saved or restored.


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[wcmarques]

good info too. i have a scheduled back up that runs nightly and saves everything to the flash card currently installed. i was needing a copy of the flash card to store offsite incase the building were to suddenly implode or be trounced by a 50 foot marshmallow man so we could get the system back up and running quickly.

 

[AvayaTier3]

nightly backups are for translations only.

You can only save announcements on demand.

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bsh

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[wcmarques]

so if i run save trans and save ann on both cards i should have two full copies of everything right? i don't have a lot of announcements and only have bout 75 handsets on my G3 switch. should be plenty of room on a 10mb flash card correct?

 

[4merAvaya]

Avaya uses a propriatary formatting on the flash cards. The system software load determines the size of the flash caard. I would duplicate the currently installed card.

Kevin

 

[AvayaTier3]

correct. 10MB is enough for translations and announcements from one tn750 board. Each tn750 would need to be saved on a separate flash card.

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bsh

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[AvayaTier3]

I am guessing you have 10MB card and g3si or g3csi with software load between g3v5 and g3v8. Actually 4MB would be a large enough card.

Flash Cards      Comcode       Size   System Size     Used For                  
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J58890TG1 L1 ;CC = 601376676   1 meg   < 800 sta    Translations Intel tn786b
J58890TG1 L7 ;CC = 601418379   2 meg   > 800 sta    Translations Intel tn786b
J58890TG1 L13;CC = 601817448   2 meg   > 800 sta    Translations Intel tn786b
J58890TG1 L10;CC = 601451487   4 meg   all intel    Trans. & Announcements  
                               4 meg   G3s          Software Upgrade L16.5.1
                                                                   (EDI 7.1)
J58890TG1 L4 ;CC = 406805481  10 meg  all           Core Dump/Translation only
J58890TG1 L12;CC = 601819790  20 meg  all G3V6      Software Upgrade 20 meg   
J58890TG1 L13;CC = 601817448   2 meg  all G3V5      Translations
J58890TG1 L14;CC = 407301324   4 meg  all G3V5      Trans. & Announcements
J58890TG1 L15;CC = 601817430  10 meg  all G3V5      Trans. & Annc. Wireless
J58890TG1 L??;CC = 601817422   4 meg  all raptor    Trans. & Announcements  
J58890TG1 L??;CC = 108724907   8 meg  all G3V9 si/csi without wireless
J58890TG1 L??;CC = 108724915  16 meg  all G3V9 si/csi with wireless
J58890TG1 L??;CC = 108724923  48 meg  all G3V9 orange card with R009i.05.1.122.4

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bsh

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[wcmarques]

alright, well i only have one announcement board so i should be good. as for the formatting issue that 4merAvaya brought up, shouldn't it be an exact copy if i run the commands on both cards on the same day? i ordered the same card using the part number from the card i currently have installed.

 

[AvayaTier3]

depends on you hardware platform and software version.

prior to g3v9, you could do Command: format card


format card help
translations
translations and announcements
firmware
core dump

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[AvayaTier3]

System: G3siV8 Software Version: G3V8i.03.0.042.2

status card-mem
                            MEMORY CARD STATUS

          Location: 01A                          Write Protection: off
            Status: inserted                        Capacity (MB): 4  Series 2
       System Size: medium                 Number of Erase Pulses:
       Card Format: post-G3V4  Translation Storage Space Used (%): 406


           File Name         Data Present     Date    Time

           translation            n
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display integrated-annc-boards
                          INTEGRATED ANNOUNCEMENT BOARDS

     Last Board Location Saved: 01A01 on 11/09/99 at 16:24

     Board            Time Remaining     Number of
     Location  Sfx       at 32Kbps       Recordings       Checksum ID

  1: 01A01      C          61               22               0cb0
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format card-mem announcements

                           FORMAT FLASH MEMORY CARD

Processor  Command Completion Status

  SPE-A    Success
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status card-mem
                            MEMORY CARD STATUS

          Location: 01A                          Write Protection: off
            Status: inserted                        Capacity (MB): 4  Series 2
       System Size: medium                 Number of Erase Pulses:
       Card Format: post-G3V4  Translation Storage Space Used (%): 827


           File Name         Data Present     Date    Time

           translation            n
           announcements          n

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bsh

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[wcmarques]

i have the G3 v6 and i can't seem to find the software version. i also just realized that i do have two annoucement boards. one with 16 recordings and another with 6 recordings. i suppose i'm going to need to move them all to one board.

 

[AvayaTier3]

Use either command below to retreive your Definity software version:


Command: newterm
Command: list config soft

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[wcmarques]

G2V6i.03.2.239.5 is the software version. so if i'm reading what you wrote correctly then i should have the option to format the card.

 

[AvayaTier3]

System: G3siV6 Software Version: G3V6i.03.2.239.5

Enter 'translation' or 'announcements' or 'coredump' or 'firmware'

    'translation' formats for translation only
  'announcements' formats for translation and announcements
       'coredump' formats for translation, announcements, and core-dump
       'firmware' formats for translation, announcements, and firmware

Or press CANCEL to cancel the command


Identifier command word(s) omitted; please press HELP
Command: format card-mem

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bsh

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