Frequent freezing and stuttering.

[Richginge]

I have just yesterday upgraded my pc. Builing it myself, I compiled a MSI K8N Neo2 nForce3, AMD 64 3500, 1024mb PC3200 DUAL RAM, SATA 80gb hd.

I have flashed bios to newest so it is able to bootup from the sata drive which was my first problem.

Now, my computer freqently freezes in games and in windows. Yesterday it froze 50% more than today however and playing games was just unplayable. Now, after doing nothing it freezes less but still freezes for a few seconds now andn then (around 20-30 secs duration when it freezes).

I have tried setting the RAM mhz speed to 200 and Tx2 so 400mhz for PC320o (ddr400) but same problem. (did this in bios)

..............

Also while in games, I have flashes of white or some colour every so often around the edges of my screen (like my desktop is seeping through when you get an msn msg and you click the game and it pulls you to the desktop) ... I have a Geforce 4 ti4600 (agp 4x setting, on a mobo that can support agp 8x). I tried the newest Forceware drivers from

http://www.guru3d.com

(72.xx i think) then i tried older versions with the same problem. I did NOT have this problem with my old mobo and I was using the same GFX.. I have only upgraded my RAM/MOBO/CPU/-addition sata hd- .

Any help would be gladly appreciated.

Windows XP Sp2
Geforce 4 ti4600 (67.03 driver)
Direct X 9.0c
MSI K8N neo2 Platinium nForce3 mobo
AMD 64 3500+
1024 DUAL pc3200 (ddr400) RAM
IDE 40gb HD
SATA 80gb hd *windows and boot drive*
ADSL 512kb

 

[Richginge]

Also when windows loadsup, i have alrdy any startup items, yet it shall pause for about 1-2 misn after loading then shalll load up the windwos update (sp2 thing) and msn. - IT is set to NOT automatic update -.

During that pause nothing will load.

 

[Richginge]

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\ControlSession Manager\Memory Management

The "Controlsession manager" is not found in that section in regdedit32.exe

 

[Freestone]

Have you loaded the chipset (Unified) driver for this board?

http://www.nvidia.com/object/nforce_udp_winxp_5.10

These should be loaded before your video drivers.

The Forceware drivers on guru3d.com are not official nVIDIA releases and therefore are suspect. I suggest getting the latest release (66.93) directly from nVIDIA's site:

http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_2k_66.93

 

[BadBigBen]

Hi there,

what is your AGP Aperture size in the BIOS? Set it to 128mb...

Set your RAM timing, in the BIOS, to AUTO or BY SPF...

Set your Virtual Mem to a fixed size of 1.5x your installed Mem (in your case to 1536mb)...

Set your IP adress to (Networkconnection) to a static form, ie. set it yourself and don't have XP looking for a domain...



Ben

If it works don't fix it! If it doesn't use a sledgehammer...

 

[Richginge]

not fixed still, any ideas

 

[Freestone]

Help us to help you by providing some feedback on our suggestions so we know that you at least tried them.

At any rate, have you scanned for a virus or malware?

 

[Richginge]

NO viruses or nothing I know .. ok I got 3DMark05 ..
but it wont start tests .. I get an error :
" !Direct3DDevice9:Createpixelshader failed: invalid call (D3DEER_INVALIDCALL)

What is this :O

Cud it be what i suggested before, my direct X is corrupted.

 

[Richginge]

Right heres my system infomation from 3DMARK05

CPU 1/1
AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+
Manufacturer AMD
Family AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+
Architecture 64-bit
Internal Clock 2.2 GHz
Internal Clock Maximum 3.0 GHz
External Clock 200.0 MHz
Socket Designation Socket 939
HyperThreadingTechnology N/A
Capabilities MMX, CMov, RDTSC, 3DNow!, Extended 3DNow!, SSE, SSE2, PAE, NX
Version AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+
Caches
Level 1 128 KB
Level 2 512 KB


DirectX Info
Version 9.0c
Long Version 4.09.00.0904


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

DirectDraw
Version 5.03.2600.2180
Primary Device NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4600


Display Device 1/1
NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4600 Driver 6.6.9.3

Description NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4600
Manufacturer NVIDIA
Total Local Video Memory 128 MB
Total Local Texture Memory 128 MB
Total AGP Memory 128 MB
Driver File nv4_disp.dll
Driver Version 6.6.9.3
Driver Date 10-29-2004
Driver WHQL Certified true
Max Texture Width 4096 px
Max Texture Height 4096 px
Max User Clipping Planes 0
Max Active Hardware Lights 8
Max Texture Blending Stages 8
Fixed Function Textures In Single Pass 4
Vertex Shader Version 1.1
Pixel Shader Version 1.3
Max Vertex Blend Matrices 0
Max Texture Coordinates 8
VGA Memory Clock 648.0 MHz
VGA Core Clock 300.4 MHz
PCI
Name NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4600
Vendor ID 0x10de
Device ID 0x0250
SubSystem ID 0x00000000
Revision ID 0xa3

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Texture Formats
32-bit ARGB [8888]
32-bit RGB [888]
16-bit RGB [565]
16-bit RGB [555]
16-bit ARGB [1555]
16-bit ARGB [4444]
8-bit YUV [800]
16-bit AYUV [8800]
FourCC [DXT1]
FourCC [DXT2]
FourCC [DXT3]
FourCC [DXT4]
FourCC [DXT5


Memory Array 1/1
Max Module Capacity 16.00 GB
Location System Board
Use System
Supported Speeds
Supported Types
Supported Voltages

Memory Slot 1/4
Installed Enabled Size 512 MB
Form Factor DIMM
Frequency 0.0 Hz
Slot A0 [Bank0/1]
Type Details
Enabled Size 512 MB
Total Bit Width 64 b
Data Bit Width 64 b
Memory Slot 2/4
Installed Enabled Size 0 B
Form Factor DIMM
Frequency 0.0 Hz
Slot A1 [Bank2/3]
Type Details
Enabled Size 0 B
Total Bit Width 64 b
Data Bit Width 64 b
Memory Slot 3/4
Installed Enabled Size 512 MB
Form Factor DIMM
Frequency 0.0 Hz
Slot A2 [Bank4/5]
Type Details
Enabled Size 512 MB
Total Bit Width 64 b
Data Bit Width 64 b
Memory Slot 4/4
Installed Enabled Size 0 B
Form Factor DIMM
Frequency 0.0 Hz
Slot A3 [Bank6/7]
Type Details
Enabled Size 0 B
Total Bit Width 64 b
Data Bit Width 64 b


Motherboard Info
Supported Slot Types ISA, PCI, AGP
Model MS-7025
BIOS Vendor Phoenix Technologies, LTD
BIOS Version 6.00 PG
BIOS Release Date 11/22/2004
BIOS Properties Plug and Play, Flash, AGP
AGP
Available Rate 0x00000000
Selected Rate 0x00000000
Aperture Size 0 B
Sideband Addressing
Fast Write

Slot 6/6 (AGP)
NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4600
Order 0
Designation AGP
Type AGP
Characteristics 5.0V
Data Bus Width 32 b
Details In Use, Long
Device Class Display Adapter
Manufacturer NVIDIA
Driver Version 6.6.9.3
Driver Date 10-29-2004
IRQ 16


System Devices
Name PCI standard host CPU bridge
Manufacturer (Standard system devices)
Name PCI standard host CPU bridge
Manufacturer (Standard system devices)

Name PCI standard host CPU bridge
Manufacturer (Standard system devices)
Name PCI standard host CPU bridge
Manufacturer (Standard system devices)

Name NVIDIA Network Bus Enumerator
Manufacturer NVIDIA
Name PCI standard ISA bridge
Manufacturer (Standard system devices)

Name PCI standard host CPU bridge
Manufacturer (Standard system devices)
Name NVIDIA nForce3 250 AGP Host to PCI Bridge
Manufacturer NVIDIA

Name Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
Manufacturer (Standard IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers)
Name NVIDIA nForce PCI System Management
Manufacturer NVIDIA

Name Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
Manufacturer (Standard IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers)
Name Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller
Manufacturer (Standard USB Host Controller)

Name Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller
Manufacturer (Standard USB Host Controller)
Name Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller
Manufacturer (Standard USB Host Controller)

Name PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
Manufacturer (Standard system devices)
Name Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
Manufacturer (Standard IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers)

USB Devices
Description USB Root Hub
Driver Date 7-1-2001
Driver Version 5.1.2600.2180
Device Class Universal Serial Bus Controller
Description USB Root Hub
Driver Date 7-1-2001
Driver Version 5.1.2600.2180
Device Class Universal Serial Bus Controller
Description USB Root Hub
Driver Date 7-1-2001
Driver Version 5.1.2600.2180
Device Class Universal Serial Bus Controller

Description Speed Touch 330 ADSL Modem
Driver Date 6-6-2002
Driver Version 200.7.0.0

FireWire Devices
Description 1394 Net Adapter
Driver Date 7-1-2001
Driver Version 5.1.2535.0
Device Class Network Adapter



Monitor Info
Monitor 1/1
Name Default Monitor
Manufacturer (Standard monitor types)
Max Width 0 px
Max Height 0 px



Operating System Info
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP
Version 5.1.2600
Service Pack Service Pack 2
Windows Environment 32-bit
Locale GB
Desktop Width 1024 px
Desktop Height 768 px
Desktop BPP 32 b
DEP
Hardware Support true
Applications Protected true
Drivers Protected true
User Option On for essential Windows programs and services only

Open Processes
Name PID Memory Usage
3DMark05.exe 3848 10 MB
alg.exe 3364 3 MB
Apache.exe 1848 5 MB
Apache.exe 460 9 MB
csrss.exe 904 3 MB
ctfmon.exe 224 3 MB
devldr32.exe 380 3 MB
dragdiag.exe 172 3 MB
explorer.exe 1980 17 MB
Idle 0 28 KB
LMonitor.exe 196 4 MB
lsass.exe 984 5 MB
msnmsgr.exe 232 4 MB
nSvcIp.exe 1932 4 MB
nSvcLog.exe 2376 2 MB
nvsvc32.exe 2404 3 MB
rundll32.exe 216 3 MB
services.exe 972 5 MB
smss.exe 388 416 KB
spoolsv.exe 1756 4 MB
svchost.exe 1140 4 MB
svchost.exe 1196 4 MB
svchost.exe 1336 22 MB
svchost.exe 1384 3 MB
svchost.exe 1540 4 MB
System 4 236 KB
winlogon.exe 928 4 MB
wmiprvse.exe 3920 6 MB
wscntfy.exe 3128 2 MB
wuauclt.exe 3856 6 MB

Logical Drives
Letter Label Type Capacity Available
A: Floppy 0 B 0 B
C: Hard Disk 38.28 GB 33.65 GB
D: Hard Disk 74.52 GB 63.48 GB
E: CD-ROM 0 B 0 B
F: HL2 CD-ROM 2.97 GB 0 B


Open Applications
3DMark05 - Free Edition



Hard Disk Info
Hard Disk Drive 1/2
Name Maxtor 6E040L0
Manufacturer (Standard disk drives)
Capacity 38.29 GB
Model Maxtor 6E040L0
Interface Type IDE
Hard Disk Drive 2/2
Name ST380013AS
Manufacturer (Standard disk drives)
Capacity 74.53 GB
Model ST380013AS
Interface Type IDE

 

[Richginge]

The 80GB hd is SATA, 40gb (maxtor) is IDE conected.

 

[Freestone]

Two things stand out to me:

Memory in slots 1 and 3. See the Recommended Memory Combination List at

http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID=607

For this combination at DDR400, the page recommends only single-sided memory (assuming that DIMM1-4 on this page corresponds to the Memory Slots 1-4 in your listing above). Does your memory conform to this?

Apache.exe. What is this? Apache server? Maybe try running without that.

 

[Richginge]

They are installed correctly - double sided

NO idea what apache.exe is

 

[Richginge]

I have tried unplugging the cd/dvd/extra hdd/floppy power cables to see if it was a power usage problem, but it aint.

 

[bcastner]

Any third-party handlers installed?
Photoshop?
Any DivX codecs?

http://www.winxptutor.com/sp2/divxcrash.htm

 

[Richginge]

Ok I formated, removed sata drive and tried on my IDE hd ... still same problem .. tried WITHOUT SP2 ... still problems with sp 1.a

Jesus christ what is it (
Any help pls

 

[BadBigBen]

Hi there, what RAM (manufacturer) are you using?

there may be an incompatibility there...


Ben

If it works don't fix it! If it doesn't use a sledgehammer...

 

[Richginge]

TwinMOS PC3200 DDR-DIMM 1024MB DUAL Packkit w/two matched


- Bought from

http://www.komplett.co.uk

Ok my computer ONLY freezes in games now, as soon as i get into ANY game I get flashing lights then it will crash after a while - is this due to my gfx and will buying a new one fix it, or do nothing ?

Is my chipsett nForce 3 250 doing something wrong (like old Via chipset, u had to use rivatuner to tweak some AGP settings so your gfx card will actually work) ??

Is my power supply too low ... Output 350watt and on the power supply case it says "Tsun ML Model: LC-B350ATX"

Will buying a new GFX fix all these problems, or wont it ?

Thank you.

P.S my adsl modem blown some how (thunder christmas night) so im on a dial up modem atm lol.. all else is working fine including USB ports, just ADSL modem wont work - new onel on its way.

 

[Richginge]

Also every since the installation of my new components - I have a beat in my speakers i.e a footstep noise that constantly does beats every 1 second (like footsteps walking) ..

I have disabled the onboard sound card but still dont see what is causing this ... if i turn speaker volume up the footstep beat gets louder aswell ..

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I ran 3dMark 2001, first tiem it crashed second time ran all the way through and I recieved 13000 aprox marks .. Dont understand how games can work now and then, and other times they crash and computer crashes. - all the time the flashing lights appear.

 

[BadBigBen]

Hola,

well you're not the only one that has probs with the nForce3 chipset... do a google search...

what order of installation have you gone through? try reinstalling (repair) WinXP+SP2 and then install the Chipset Drivers (newest ones available)... btw what version of XP (32bit or 64bit) are you using?



Ben

If it works don't fix it! If it doesn't use a sledgehammer...

 

[Richginge]

any help pls ?
Shall i buy new PSu or GFX, what will fix it.

 

[franklin97355]

Richginge give it a few minutes between posts so someone can answer. Or think about your posts so you don't have to keep adding comments. Thanks.