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[Ladyazh]

I just saw someone's sig that sounded like Tracy's.
Here it is:

Do not trifle with wizards, for it makes them soggy and hard to light.


Is this from the same treasure box do you think? Is this some way of saying things that have a definition? Please, elaborate if anyone will.

 

[Lunatic]

...and cricket to be hit in the hystericals...

I'm almost afraid to ask... does that mean what I'm afraid it means?

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[KenCunningham]

Lunatic. Unfortunately it does. That is why one should always wear a 'box' when playing cricket! I'll let Scott fill you in on the details of this particular contraption.

I don't mind people who aren't what they seem. I just wish they'd make their mind up.

 

[Lunatic]

Hystericals then, well thats a new one to me.

I imagine the 'box' you are referring to is very similar to the 'cup' I wore for the 6 years I caught for the baseball teams I was on.



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[Stella740pl]

Ladyazh,

Stella, I do nor recall me dismissing a whole poet base on one poem. Wasn't I speaking of this particular poem? I was.
I mostly meant that you were still talking about only one poem after I posted a link to another piece, and to a whole site. Of course you don't have to check them out if you don't want to, but doesn't it mean that you are effectively dismissing all of the rest because you didn't like this one?

But as I understand, even if you know that in "Little Red Riding Hood" "the good guy gets it all", you correctly suspected that some people-eating still might be taking place (as it always was for ages of this fairy tale's existence), and didn't want to go through the horror again.

I did not think after reading 'crocodile' that I want to know more about a poet. So I simply stated that I do not think it was funny nor intelligent IMHO... It is just my moral standarts but it is just me and I can be missing on some fun so I wish I loved it but thanks, no, thanks.
Well, you are entitled to your opinion. So am I. In my opinion, all of this doesn't have anything to do with moral standards or anything of the kind.

May I just remind you that at least one (can't recall more right on the spot) of the most popular Russian children's poets mentioned subject of eating children in more than one of his poems (and they, apparently, were meant for kids)? Of course, in those tales not only the good guys won, but also the bad guys changed their ways and became good. Even better ending than in "Little Red Riding Hood" and many other tales. Isn't that wonderful ;-)?

I got to add, though, that I didn't read those mentioned poems to my older daughter when she was a little kid; just because they seemed ridiculous to me and hard to explain, unlike some other favorites from the same author. We actually read them together, with my daughter and my husband, years later, and found them to be not as much children's books as great satirical pieces for adults, ridiculously funny, with a lot of hidden references.

 

[gbaughma]

Speaking of Fairy Tales.....

We watched "Into the Woods" again last night. **GREAT** play.

Imagine The Baker and his Wife, Red Riding Hood, Cinderella, Jack and the Beanstalk, Rapunzel, all rolled into one big story, *THEN* take it (in the second act) to what happened *AFTER* "Happily ever after".

All set to a musical, with Burnadette Peters playing the witch. :-D



Just my 2¢

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[ascotta]

Yes hystericals is a term I kinda invented with a mate many moons ago. I think it came from watching some one getting hit in his ...... and a spate of childish guffawing later it was cast in stone [groan] as hystericals. Yes a box sounds exactly like a cup, I now have a similar and very childish picture in my head of a blerk going to play baseball or cricket with a teacup strategically placed.

A box to the uniintiated is a hard plastic codpiece with foam roung the edges that should protect the area that most men, should they be hit by most things in this area, will bend over double clutching said part in agony with water streaming from their eyes, and their voice returns to soprano characteristics.

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Cheers
Scott

 

[Welshbird]

Out of interest Scotty - women also often wear a box to play cricket.

(I didn't used to, but being hit in that area which for us is esentially 'bone' (groaning beginneth) brings tears to our eyes too...)

Fee

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[Ladyazh]

Stella,
again I did not have to do extra reading to make sure I did not like that particular poem. IMHO

And what is this have to do with Russian poet whom I probably never liked also?
"May I just remind you that at least one of the most popular Russian children's poets mentioned subject of eating children in more than one of his poems..."

Have I ever said if poet was Russian I would loved the poem and my dislike based on nationality of the poet? No.
I haven't. Sorry. I did not like the poem based on it's contest nor I am interested to continue to explore art of this particular writer. Again because there is no pint in this and I am always looking for 'hows' and 'whys' and 'what fors'

 

[Stella740pl]

And what is this have to do with Russian poet whom I probably never liked also?
...
Have I ever said if poet was Russian I would loved the poem and my dislike based on nationality of the poet? No.

I didn't say so, too.

I just wanted to point out that you for sure know who this poet is from your early childhood; and, most likely, remember many excerpts from his poems by heart. At the very least, you are familiar with his poems, if not by your choice, then by your parents', I would guess. The fact that he also has several pieces mentioning eating children probably didn't stop them from reading to you his other poems. I don't know whether you liked them or not, but there is a chance that you did.

I was talking about Chukovsky. And those "more than one of his poems" are "Barmaley" and, yes, "Crocodile" - and, possibly, there are more than that..

I haven't. Sorry. I did not like the poem based on it's contest nor I am interested to continue to explore art of this particular writer.

Oh well. Whatever.
So you don't like it and I do like it, and you don't want to read anything else of this poet - so no one is making you.

Someone you talked to in another thread didn't see a point in Mona Lisa, I remember. He was not under obligation to like it. I didn't see the live picture, so I cannot judge. I know people who did see the picture, and don't understand what's all the fuss about, and say they have seen much greater masterpieces. So what? It's their opinion. You do like it, and it is your right, too.

Initially, I just wanted to let Olaf know that I liked it and that I gave him a star, and to provide a link for those who might want to see it.

Let's just stop at this.

 

[SF0751]

I just want to jump in here and state that I also enjoyed Olaf's posting of Roald Dahl's poem. I had read some of Dahl's work in the past ("Charlie and the Chocolate Factory" and "James and the Giant Peach"), but not any of his poetry.

That's one of the things that I enjoy about Tek-Tips - so often, someone will post about a news article, an author, an artist, a location - something that I am not familiar with - and I will want to know more about it. Sometimes the query does not go any further than a Wikipedia entry, but sometimes it does, and I have a new entry in my "list of things I like".

Now I'm off to find out more information about Chukovsky.

Susan
"Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls, and looks like work." - Thomas A. Edison

 

[Ladyazh]

I did see Mona Lisa and I haven't died from excitiment but I have great respect for this masterpiece because it is indeed a masterpiece and even people who think there are greater art do respect Mona Lisa nevertheless. I hope I am right. However 'crocodile' is out of the league
This crocodile eats kids without indication of them being BAD...so he just 'enjoys JUICY 3 girls 3 boys'... there is no lesson like 'so be good for goodness sake'...

About Chukovsky - 'Barmaley' was a bloody uneducated pirate and point was that he converted at the end and confessed and became good. It was said he 'eats little kids' and that was it (no detailes like with butter or mustard.) And juicy. Brrrrr

 

[Stella740pl]

Susan,

You can start with Wikipedia entry:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chukovsky

.

As for his poetry, do you read Russian? Because I don't know if his works were translated, and if so, if the translations were any good. Unfortunately, more often than not, translated poetry, well, loses it all in translation.
Say, I've seen translations of "Eugene Onegin" into English. I don't even want to go into this...

On the other hand, I've seen exceptions - if the translations were made by other great poets, and not just professional translators. Please forgive me for saying this, but I found Boris Pasternak's (you will see his picture and the link in the article about Chukovsky) translation of Shakespeare’s "Hamlet" to be better than the original.

 

[Ladyazh]

Boris Pasternak's translation of Shakespeare’s "Hamlet" to be better than the original???

Now I saw it all!!!

 

[Stella740pl]

Have you read both?

 

[Ladyazh]

Yes.

 

[Stella740pl]

Well, I've read 2 different translations, and the original.

This is my opinion after reading all of them.

So you have a different opinion. So what?

I don't have to "die from excitement" just from hearing the great name, it's enough to have a "great respect for this masterpiece" , etc. Right?

So why do you feel you need to make a comment like "Now I saw it all!!!"? After all, you didn't make it when someone told you their opinion about Mona Lisa?

 

[Ladyazh]

Please, let's refrain from further arguments about poetry and art.
Regards,
L

 

[Stella740pl]

I agree.

Actually, I said about the same several posts ago, at the end of my post from 11:09, and my post after that was addressed to Susan.

Let's stop already.

 

[Ladyazh]

I meant real poetry.

 

[ascotta]

M'appologies Fee, how ignorant of me. Yes ladies do wear these items. Interersting to watch my son whos is of an age where everthing pink is girls and not to be messed with playing against some girls who are quite good too. Hasn't got his head round it yet. Ah the age of innocence.

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Cheers
Scott