Fiber for Voice and data

[firefoxfire]

I have a client that has a warehouse about 500 feet from his main office. he wants to extend both his Nortel extensions and fax machines into this building but also his data feeds as well.

Due to the distance the data will not work or will be slow. I wanted to look at a fiber feed for both the voice and data.

I have never installed a fiber feed for either. What suggestions for parts and installation would you suggest. Perhaps a simple modular set up for my first time would be the easiest way to go.

If you have any links for suppliers that would be great.

 

[firefoxfire]

BTW we are going to have to trench into dirt, asphalt and then into concrete and install all this underground via a conduit.

 

[rfpup]

Yes, fiber is great for that, especially when you have many connections to transfer from point A to point B.

What type of extensions are they? Analogue, Digital, IP?
How many extensions?
Do they plan to change the type of current extensions in the future? if yes, going from which type to which type?
Do theyplan to transfer additional extensions in the future?

How many bandwidth is needed for data network ?

Let suppose that they need to transfer 5 computers from building A to B, the best possible way could be 5 * 100 mbit/s=500mbit/s
If they will transfer more computers now or in the future this has to be known.

All this information is neccessary for you to find an appropriate solution.

 

[firefoxfire]

These are going to stay as Nortel digital stations for the next several years. A few analog fax lines and a few P.C.'s.

I have seen data terminated via fiber but I have never seen copper analog lines and Nortel digital stations going into fiber then coming off fiber and back to copper.

Can you explain how this is done?

Thanks.

 

[rfpup]

I see, I think that the easist way is the following:

1. digital stations (internal digital extensions) and analogue internal extensions (used for fax) transfer by installing a multi- pair cable between two sites, terminated in Krone blocks in each site, for example if you have in total 42 extensions and in the future there will be not more than additional 8 you nstall a 50 pair copper cable from site A to site B (ask how many pairs are needed for digital extensions of Nortel, I am supposing 1 pair for 1 dig. ext.). 500 feet is ok

2. for data links search google for ethernet over fiber (I suggest RAD, Keymile, Patton but you may search for more) and take in consideration the bandwidth needed between two sites and type of optic fiber and connectors of the fiber.

Hope this helps!

 

[trvlr1]

Depending on the type of phone system and the amount of phones being installed, a fiber remote might be worth looking at. Basically it extends a shelf to the new location, while still maintaining your centralized phone lines and voice mail system etc.

 

[hairlessupportmonkey]

I wouldn't have thought anything other that multi-core would extend TDM based handsets.

ACSS - SME
General Geek

 

[rfpup]

Hi,
what is multi-core?

 

[nabisho]

I used one of these to line muxes to extend 12 Meridian 11c lines analog lines and 2 Meridan digital lines to a remote plant we built about 7 years ago. We trenched in single-mode fiber and I used one pair for the line extender/mux and another for the data/lan connections. So far it has worked flawlessly, never had a problem yet.

NAB

http://www.americantechsupply.com/foextenders.htm

 

[firefoxfire]

So basically taking everything doth analog, digital and data and sending it over the fiber then converting it back at the other end?

 

[rfpup]

This option seems nice but take care if they support digital extensions to extend over fiber and if they also support ethernet over fiber.

 

[nabisho]

The data/lan/ethernet connection was a separate link using a couple transcievers from BlackBox and an 8 port SMC switch at the new plant end. The phone mux had it's own single mode pair just for the line extensions. The mux we bought extended both the analog and digital lines over to the new plant - but you should ask the vendor to be sure. I think the single-mode cable we trenched in had 12 pair and we only used two.

NAB

 

[jsaad]

if this a Nortel Norstar you can extend a 16 port station module over fiber with one of these:

http://citel.com/Products/Mod_EXTender.asp

http://www.tgscorp.com