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Sam577

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I'm very new to InDesign and am trying to place a 50-page Word 2000 doc into an ID template (made by someone else) on Windows XP. It keeps crashing with the following message: “Adobe InDesign is shutting down. A serious error was detected. Please restart InDesign to recover work in any unsaved InDesign documents.” The other problem I'm having is that even when it does work, MS Mincho is being registered as a missing font - I've double-checked the Word file - and there is not even one occurrence of this font – in fact, I don't even have it installed on my system. ID seems to be converting Arial into MS Mincho when it is placed in InDesign. I’m sure I must be doing something wrong – any ideas? I’m using version 2.0.2; RAM is 1.0GB DDR333 dual channel memory (2x512) with 80gb hard drive space; processor speed: P4 3.0GHz on a Dell computer, if that’s any help.
 
Sam, have you tried saving the file as RTF from Word and placing that?
 
MS Word documents can have embedded fonts which I believe makes ID unhappy.

Isn't mincho a japanese font? Could ID be choking on unusual characters?

If stripping extraneous MSWord data and saving down to RTF is not enough, consider dumbing the text all the way down to a plain text file.



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Jimoblak is correct MSMincho is a Japanese font used by Microsoft programmes.
Is the document source Japan or from anyone using IME together with Word?
I have a computer here with a western version of Windows 2000.
I made a Word document file using MSMincho.
In Design refused to import it.
I entered a small text directly into InDesign via the keyboard (using MSMincho and IME) The text entry had no problems, but when I tried to print to my Brother PS-laser InDesign froze!
In Japan there is a very popular wordprocessor called "Ichitarou". Many people use it and often export files from it in Word .doc format. I guess that would cause even greater problems when trying to import into InDesign. Sorry I have no solution to your question, but I think that the Word document you have has been saved somewhere along the line with Japanese coding enabled.
 

Thank you all for your help.

A few more questions: what is IME?

Does a plain text file retain index entries?

What constitutes an 'unusual character'? What do you mean by extraneous MSWord data?

Do you think my RAM is sufficient for InDesign?

Would a font manager (e.g. Adobe Type Manager ATM) be useful for this type of work? What does it do?

Thanks again
Sam
 
Global IME: Is a very clever and useful programme supplied by Microsoft to enable the input of Japanese/Chinese/Korean into Microsoft programmes like Word by using a standard western keyboard.
It stands for Global Input Method Editors.

MS Mincho is the Microsoft equivalent font for Times New Roman for Japanese input, and MSGothic is the equivalent of Arial.
 
Does a plain text file retain index entries?
A plain text file only contains what you see. RTF and DOC files hold hidden data that describes colors for fonts, alignment, etc. Plain text is as bare bones as you can get in handling text data.

What constitutes an 'unusual character'? What do you mean by extraneous MSWord data?
An unusual character falls outside of the A-Z, a-z, 0-9 range. For example, some fonts may not contain ®
(the registered trademark symbol).

Extraneous MSWord data includes formatting that is intended for MS Office applications but is of little use for other text editors. See the 'CtrlAttributeStrip' free plugin that was noted in another post in this forum today.

Do you think my RAM is sufficient for InDesign?
You have plenty. Send some my way.

Would a font manager (e.g. Adobe Type Manager ATM) be useful for this type of work? What does it do?
Yes: if you do a lot of page layout work that you share with others. A font manager will allow you to group fonts so that you can temporarily activate groups for a project. There is no reason to have 7000 fonts installed at once.

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