Does Mac use IDE drives 4

[rokerij]

Does a mac use the same hard drives of PC's? I ask because I have an associate here with mac laptop that needs to have data recovered. Not having another mac to swap drives with, I was planning on using a external enclosure to encase the drive from the original "spent" Macintosh hard drive, this has worked numerous times in the past on PC laptops. thanks for any insight.

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[Foamcow]

Yes they use the same drives.
However, which model laptop is it?
More recent models use SATA drives.

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[drlex]

Also, if you're planning on reading the disk with a Windows PC, you'll need a utility like MacDrive to read it.

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[jimbopalmer]

Laptops before the PowerPC CPUs, used SCSI drives, but they would be ancient.

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[rokerij]

Thank you all for your responses. That is a huge help. Is MacDrive available as a free download or does it need to be purchased? I will try to google it. Thanks again everyone! Stars all around.

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[drlex]

You're too kind. Alas, MacDrive is a paid licence. I find it invaluable when using a Mac-formatted ipod or portable HDD on an XP box.

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[jimoblak]

Isn't Mac data recovery best done on a Mac? Trying to recover on Windows throws a wrench in the works since you are translating file systems. You might be capable of doing it but it is so much easier to do this on the native platform with the native file system. Moving the drive to a Windows system would be my last resort.

 

[rokerij]

ALright, then what about pulling the hard drive out of the iBook and putting it into the external enclosure, and finally connecting that to a MAC? Would that be a better way around to saving the file from the failed iBook?

Thanks again everyone!

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[jimoblak]

I'm confused why you would remove the drive from the computer at all if you believe the drive is functional enough to extract/recover data. It does not need to be so difficult.

When I have a bad drive, the first thing I do is boot from a system CD to run Apple disk tools.

Then I might use a third party tool like DiskWarrior.

Read more:

http://kb.wisc.edu/helpdesk/page.php?id=3810

http://www.informit.com/articles/article.asp?p=693649&rl=1

If these drive tools do not help, there is no point in taking the drive to another computer.

 

[jimoblak]

But yes, if you need to put that buggy drive in an enclosure, you should use the external enclosure on a Mac to recover data or run disk tools.

 

[rokerij]

The iBook has no monitor, well it does, but it does not work. That is why I am attempting to pull the drive and recover data that way. The laptop is a bit older and not worth the repairs my associate was quoted, so I am trying to get the data from it for her. However, last night I pulled the drive, and it has 'female' ports as does the enclosure, so I am not sure how I would connect it? I do not have access to any other Mac, as I have only worked on PC's and my office is a PC work place. I understand that the drive should be read using another Mac, but this is not going to be possible and at this point, not sure how to retrieve the data since I can not get it connected to the enclosure due to the 'female' to 'female' connections I am facing. Thanks again everyone for your insight.




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[Matzki]

Boot the iBook in Target disk mode and connect to it via firewire.

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=58583

 

[rokerij]

Thank you Matzki, but I have other Mac to connect it to.

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[drlex]

Female connector? Sounds like it might have an adaptor on it. As Matzki has pointed out, target mode saves having to pull the ibook apart, as long as it will power up to take the 'T' input when booting.
For future reference on 2.5" laptop drives and 3.5" enclosures, have a read of this page:

http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5102-1035-5160538.html

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[rokerij]

Yes, I looked to see if I could pull an adapter or anything else from the iBook to make the connection easier, but I did not see anything, the pins seem to be soldered into the iBook. I did some digging in my "inventory" room here at work and came across an pink (gotta love it!) iMac, but from what i can tell the OS is 8.5 and the target mode needs 8.6, soooo close, but no Cuban. I am going to head downtown and see if the PC store has that adapter, that looks like it may work. I will also post some pix of the iBook and the drive for review. Thanks to everyone for your help. You must all be Mac users, right?

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[Matzki]

Maybe?

http://www.softpedia.com/get/File-managers/MacDrive.shtml

 

[rokerij]

Thanks again, I have downloaded the program MacDrive, and now just need the adapter. I will post my results very shortly. Thanks to everyone!

I have uploaded a pic of the drive sitting on top of the open enclosure that will be used. As you can see that both are female connectors.

http://www.bspromo.cc/Images/LaptopDrive.jpg

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[jimbopalmer]

Laptops before the PowerPC CPUs, used SCSI drives, but they would be ancient"

MacOS 8.5 is ancient, that drive is almost assuredly SCSI, you did not focus so the model number shows but by all means google on the model number of the hard drive.

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[rokerij]

Thank you to all that have helped guide me through this mess. I have been able to remove the hard drive, attach it to an external enclosure and utilizing MacDrive been able to confirm the files and data. At this point I have passed the drive and enclosure over to the person who is trying to attach it to a Mac. The file that was needed to be recovered was still in production mode of the iMovie format, and would not burn to disk using the Windows OS with MacDrive. Hopefully at this point, all the data will be recovered and most importantly, I have learned that there is a real reason there are very few Mac techs in my area, may be a better OS (Still judging that) but the hardware configurations (at least on older iBooks) sucks, the entire laptop had to be pulled apart to get the drive out, makes no sense Apple, none at all.


Thanks again everyone.


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