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Daylight Savings Rules for US and APAC

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lf0002

lf0002

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Mar 24, 2004
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My Avaya system is location in Colorado and we have multiple sites including Norway.

Because US DST is on a different date than Norway DST. I have to manually adjust the Norway rule on their DST date.

I am trying to find an automatic way for Norway time to adjust when US does and again on Norway date.

US DST = March 11 to Nov 4 2012
Norway DST = March 25 to Oct 23 (I cant have 2 rules for this)

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated!

 
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As a rule, the servers in the cluster if LSP or ESS use the same timezone as the Main server.

Use location 2 (daylight savings rule 2) for the network-region
associated with equipment in Norway.

Code: 
change daylight-savings-rules                                   Page   1 of   2
                        DAYLIGHT SAVINGS RULES

 Rule          Change Day                 Month  Date   Time    Increment

  0: No Daylight Savings

  1: Start: first Sunday     on or after March     8   at 02:00   01:00
      Stop: first Sunday     on or after November  1   at 02:00

  2: Start: first Sunday     on or after March    22   at 02:00   01:00
      Stop: first Sunday     on or after October  25   at 02:00
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
change locations                                                Page   1 of  16
                                   LOCATIONS

                ARS Prefix 1 Required For 10-Digit NANP Calls? n

 Loc.  Name           Timezone Rule  NPA  ARS   Attd         Pre-   Proxy Sel.
 No.                   Offset             FAC   FAC          fix    Rte. Pat.
 1:   Denver          + 00:00   1    303           
 2:   Oslo            + 07:00   2    
 3:   Chicago         + 01:00   1    312

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bsh

37 years Bell, AT&T, Lucent, Avaya
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here is where I get confused.

currently our time is 7:06PM MST
Norway is 2:06AM CET
that is 7 hours difference
this matches the location offset + 07:00 you show

But, on march 25 Norway changes to 6 hours difference
how does the system know to do this?


 
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On the gateways located in Oslo make sure that you have the location set to 2. As long as this is set the gateways will use location 2 rules which has the offset of +7. On location 2 you have the rule 2 for day light savings. Rule 2 looks for the first sunday after march 22 and will adjust the time by 1 hour at 2 am.
 
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The issue I have with Tolson version is that the off set seems to be from the system time, and not from GMT. So in effect, the time Norway office would change 2 times.

My recommendation is to set your server to GMT, and then use the location time zone rules to keep everyone Main, and LSP, ESS on the correct time.

This is not a problem if you just have site in the US, but when you have other location out side of the US, this is the only way I see to correct that.
 
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The DST change last weekend did work using Rule +7 However, on March 25 Norway DST starts.

From what I can tell I will have to manually change the Rule to +6. Why?

We would rather not go to GMT because we the local time for our alarms & errors, CDR, and time-of-day for call centers.

Is there no other way without going to GMT?

 
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This will all be automatic if you program it like the example.


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bsh

37 years Bell, AT&T, Lucent, Avaya
Tier 3 for 27 years and counting
 
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AvayaTier3:

I apologize but I am missing how it will work?

2: Oslo + 07:00 2

How is this going to automatically going to adjust to the 6 hour difference on the March 25
 
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It will increment the time by one hour for daylight savings rule 2
which will change the time difference from 7 to 6 hours

The software was designed for exactly this purpose and works as well as can, provided you program it correctly.

A great teacher, does not provide answers, but methods to teach others "How and where to find the answers"

bsh

37 years Bell, AT&T, Lucent, Avaya
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This will work for all hardware programmed for location 2 which uses daylight savings rule 2 in the example.

cabinets, media-gateways, phones can be associated with locations
and network-region programming.

A great teacher, does not provide answers, but methods to teach others "How and where to find the answers"

bsh

37 years Bell, AT&T, Lucent, Avaya
Tier 3 for 27 years and counting
 
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Got it!

So basically, I will have to change the dates manually since the date changes every year.

Unless, we want to goto to GMT which forces us to manually adjust the to local time for alarms and errors, list history, traces, etc.

In the future, maybe Avaya will change this - allow GMT for clocking but enable yes to set local time for system related tasks.

I am very pro Avaya but I keep getting push back that Cisco can do this why can't Avaya.

Thank you very much for all your assitance. It is greatly appreciated.
 
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I don't understand what you are missing here. If you program it correctly, nothing will ever have to be done manually.

There is no reason to program the main server in Colorado using GMT to make this work.

What DavidPayne was saying is that you could program your server to use GMT time, and make a rule for Colorado that is GMT -6 hours
and you could make a rule for OSLO GMT +1

The Avaya software design for this is to accommodate servers and equipment anywhere in the world and it is flexible enough to make all equipment update automatically base on a customer's needs.

A great teacher, does not provide answers, but methods to teach others "How and where to find the answers"

bsh

37 years Bell, AT&T, Lucent, Avaya
Tier 3 for 27 years and counting
 
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Hummmmmmmm

For 2013 oslo time change will be March 31 to Oct 27.

This is where I would have to do a manual adjustment every year.

How does this date get changed automatically?

 
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I was wrong on the March date for DST rule 2

Code: 
If you change March 22 to March 25 for DST rule 2 it will work every year.
Check the calendars below:

change daylight-savings-rules                                   Page   1 of   2
                        DAYLIGHT SAVINGS RULES

 Rule          Change Day                 Month  Date   Time    Increment

  0: No Daylight Savings

  1: Start: first Sunday     on or after March     8   at 02:00   01:00
      Stop: first Sunday     on or after November  1   at 02:00

  2: Start: first Sunday     on or after March    25   at 02:00   01:00
      Stop: first Sunday     on or after October  25   at 02:00
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
cp /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Oslo /etc/localtime

/usr/sbin/zdump -v /etc/localtime | grep 201[1-90] | grep 01:59
/etc/localtime  Sun Mar 28 00:59:59 2010 UTC = Sun Mar 28 01:59:59 2010 CET isdst=0 gmtoff=3600
/etc/localtime  Sun Mar 27 00:59:59 2011 UTC = Sun Mar 27 01:59:59 2011 CET isdst=0 gmtoff=3600
/etc/localtime  Sun Mar 25 00:59:59 2012 UTC = Sun Mar 25 01:59:59 2012 CET isdst=0 gmtoff=3600
/etc/localtime  Sun Mar 31 00:59:59 2013 UTC = Sun Mar 31 01:59:59 2013 CET isdst=0 gmtoff=3600
/etc/localtime  Sun Mar 30 00:59:59 2014 UTC = Sun Mar 30 01:59:59 2014 CET isdst=0 gmtoff=3600
/etc/localtime  Sun Mar 29 00:59:59 2015 UTC = Sun Mar 29 01:59:59 2015 CET isdst=0 gmtoff=3600
/etc/localtime  Sun Mar 27 00:59:59 2016 UTC = Sun Mar 27 01:59:59 2016 CET isdst=0 gmtoff=3600
/etc/localtime  Sun Mar 26 00:59:59 2017 UTC = Sun Mar 26 01:59:59 2017 CET isdst=0 gmtoff=3600
/etc/localtime  Sun Mar 25 00:59:59 2018 UTC = Sun Mar 25 01:59:59 2018 CET isdst=0 gmtoff=3600
/etc/localtime  Sun Mar 31 00:59:59 2019 UTC = Sun Mar 31 01:59:59 2019 CET isdst=0 gmtoff=3600

/usr/sbin/zdump -v /etc/localtime | grep 201[1-90] | grep 02:59
/etc/localtime  Sun Oct 31 00:59:59 2010 UTC = Sun Oct 31 02:59:59 2010 CEST isdst=1 gmtoff=7200
/etc/localtime  Sun Oct 30 00:59:59 2011 UTC = Sun Oct 30 02:59:59 2011 CEST isdst=1 gmtoff=7200
/etc/localtime  Sun Oct 28 00:59:59 2012 UTC = Sun Oct 28 02:59:59 2012 CEST isdst=1 gmtoff=7200
/etc/localtime  Sun Oct 27 00:59:59 2013 UTC = Sun Oct 27 02:59:59 2013 CEST isdst=1 gmtoff=7200
/etc/localtime  Sun Oct 26 00:59:59 2014 UTC = Sun Oct 26 02:59:59 2014 CEST isdst=1 gmtoff=7200
/etc/localtime  Sun Oct 25 00:59:59 2015 UTC = Sun Oct 25 02:59:59 2015 CEST isdst=1 gmtoff=7200
/etc/localtime  Sun Oct 30 00:59:59 2016 UTC = Sun Oct 30 02:59:59 2016 CEST isdst=1 gmtoff=7200
/etc/localtime  Sun Oct 29 00:59:59 2017 UTC = Sun Oct 29 02:59:59 2017 CEST isdst=1 gmtoff=7200
/etc/localtime  Sun Oct 28 00:59:59 2018 UTC = Sun Oct 28 02:59:59 2018 CEST isdst=1 gmtoff=7200
/etc/localtime  Sun Oct 27 00:59:59 2019 UTC = Sun Oct 27 02:59:59 2019 CEST isdst=1 gmtoff=7200

   March 2010
 S  M Tu  W Th  F  S
    1  2  3  4  5  6
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14 15 16 17 18 19 20
21 22 23 24 25 26 27
28 29 30 31

   March 2011
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       1  2  3  4  5
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13 14 15 16 17 18 19
20 21 22 23 24 25 26
27 28 29 30 31

   March 2012
 S  M Tu  W Th  F  S
             1  2  3
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11 12 13 14 15 16 17
18 19 20 21 22 23 24
25 26 27 28 29 30 31

   March 2013
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                1  2
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10 11 12 13 14 15 16
17 18 19 20 21 22 23
24 25 26 27 28 29 30
31
   March 2014
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                   1
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16 17 18 19 20 21 22
23 24 25 26 27 28 29
30 31
   March 2015
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15 16 17 18 19 20 21
22 23 24 25 26 27 28
29 30 31

   March 2016
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       1  2  3  4  5
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13 14 15 16 17 18 19
20 21 22 23 24 25 26
27 28 29 30 31

   March 2017
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          1  2  3  4
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12 13 14 15 16 17 18
19 20 21 22 23 24 25
26 27 28 29 30 31

   March 2018
 S  M Tu  W Th  F  S
             1  2  3
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11 12 13 14 15 16 17
18 19 20 21 22 23 24
25 26 27 28 29 30 31

   March 2019
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                1  2
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10 11 12 13 14 15 16
17 18 19 20 21 22 23
24 25 26 27 28 29 30
31

   October 2010
 S  M Tu  W Th  F  S
                1  2
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10 11 12 13 14 15 16
17 18 19 20 21 22 23
24 25 26 27 28 29 30
31
   October 2011
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                   1
 2  3  4  5  6  7  8
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16 17 18 19 20 21 22
23 24 25 26 27 28 29
30 31
   October 2012
 S  M Tu  W Th  F  S
    1  2  3  4  5  6
 7  8  9 10 11 12 13
14 15 16 17 18 19 20
21 22 23 24 25 26 27
28 29 30 31

   October 2013
 S  M Tu  W Th  F  S
       1  2  3  4  5
 6  7  8  9 10 11 12
13 14 15 16 17 18 19
20 21 22 23 24 25 26
27 28 29 30 31

   October 2014
 S  M Tu  W Th  F  S
          1  2  3  4
 5  6  7  8  9 10 11
12 13 14 15 16 17 18
19 20 21 22 23 24 25
26 27 28 29 30 31

   October 2015
 S  M Tu  W Th  F  S
             1  2  3
 4  5  6  7  8  9 10
11 12 13 14 15 16 17
18 19 20 21 22 23 24
25 26 27 28 29 30 31

   October 2016
 S  M Tu  W Th  F  S
                   1
 2  3  4  5  6  7  8
 9 10 11 12 13 14 15
16 17 18 19 20 21 22
23 24 25 26 27 28 29
30 31
   October 2017
 S  M Tu  W Th  F  S
 1  2  3  4  5  6  7
 8  9 10 11 12 13 14
15 16 17 18 19 20 21
22 23 24 25 26 27 28
29 30 31

   October 2018
 S  M Tu  W Th  F  S
    1  2  3  4  5  6
 7  8  9 10 11 12 13
14 15 16 17 18 19 20
21 22 23 24 25 26 27
28 29 30 31

   October 2019
 S  M Tu  W Th  F  S
       1  2  3  4  5
 6  7  8  9 10 11 12
13 14 15 16 17 18 19
20 21 22 23 24 25 26
27 28 29 30 31


A great teacher, does not provide answers, but methods to teach others "How and where to find the answers"

bsh

37 years Bell, AT&T, Lucent, Avaya
Tier 3 for 27 years and counting
 
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You can use these CLI commands from linux:

/usr/sbin/zdump -v /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Oslo | grep 201[1-90] | grep 01:59
/usr/sbin/zdump -v /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Oslo | grep 201[1-90] | grep 02:59

The commands will work for any timezone.

Code: 
cd /usr/share/zoneinfo  

ls

Africa      Chile    Factory    Iceland      Mexico    posix       UCT
America     CST6CDT  GB         Indian       Mideast   posixrules  Universal
Antarctica  Cuba     GB-Eire    Iran         MST       PRC         US
Arctic      EET      GMT        iso3166.tab  MST7MDT   PST8PDT     UTC
Asia        Egypt    GMT0       Israel       Navajo    right       WET
Atlantic    Eire     GMT-0      Jamaica      NZ        ROC         W-SU
Australia   EST      GMT+0      Japan        NZ-CHAT   ROK         zone.tab
Brazil      EST5EDT  Greenwich  Kwajalein    Pacific   Singapore   Zulu
Canada      Etc      Hongkong   Libya        Poland    SystemV
CET         Europe   HST        MET          Portugal  Turkey
------------------------------------------------------------------
ls *
CET      EST5EDT  GMT+0        Israel     MST7MDT     PRC        Universal
CST6CDT  Factory  Greenwich    Jamaica    Navajo      PST8PDT    UTC
Cuba     GB       Hongkong     Japan      NZ          ROC        WET
EET      GB-Eire  HST          Kwajalein  NZ-CHAT     ROK        W-SU
Egypt    GMT      Iceland      Libya      Poland      Singapore  zone.tab
Eire     GMT0     Iran         MET        Portugal    Turkey     Zulu
EST      GMT-0    iso3166.tab  MST        posixrules  UCT

Africa:
Abidjan      Bissau       Dar_es_Salaam  Khartoum    Malabo     Nouakchott
Accra        Blantyre     Djibouti       Kigali      Maputo     Ouagadougou
Addis_Ababa  Brazzaville  Douala         Kinshasa    Maseru     Porto-Novo
Algiers      Bujumbura    El_Aaiun       Lagos       Mbabane    Sao_Tome
Asmara       Cairo        Freetown       Libreville  Mogadishu  Timbuktu
Asmera       Casablanca   Gaborone       Lome        Monrovia   Tripoli
Bamako       Ceuta        Harare         Luanda      Nairobi    Tunis
Bangui       Conakry      Johannesburg   Lubumbashi  Ndjamena   Windhoek
Banjul       Dakar        Kampala        Lusaka      Niamey

America:
Adak           Chicago        Guayaquil     Mexico_City     Resolute
Anchorage      Chihuahua      Guyana        Miquelon        Rio_Branco
Anguilla       Coral_Harbour  Halifax       Moncton         Rosario
Antigua        Cordoba        Havana        Monterrey       Santiago
Araguaina      Costa_Rica     Hermosillo    Montevideo      Santo_Domingo
Argentina      Cuiaba         Indiana       Montreal        Sao_Paulo
Aruba          Curacao        Indianapolis  Montserrat      Scoresbysund
Asuncion       Danmarkshavn   Inuvik        Nassau          Shiprock
Atikokan       Dawson         Iqaluit       New_York        St_Johns
Atka           Dawson_Creek   Jamaica       Nipigon         St_Kitts
Bahia          Denver         Jujuy         Nome            St_Lucia
Barbados       Detroit        Juneau        Noronha         St_Thomas
Belem          Dominica       Kentucky      North_Dakota    St_Vincent
Belize         Edmonton       Knox_IN       Panama          Swift_Current
Blanc-Sablon   Eirunepe       La_Paz        Pangnirtung     Tegucigalpa
Boa_Vista      El_Salvador    Lima          Paramaribo      Thule
Bogota         Ensenada       Los_Angeles   Phoenix         Thunder_Bay
Boise          Fortaleza      Louisville    Port-au-Prince  Tijuana
Buenos_Aires   Fort_Wayne     Maceio        Porto_Acre      Toronto
Cambridge_Bay  Glace_Bay      Managua       Port_of_Spain   Tortola
Campo_Grande   Godthab        Manaus        Porto_Velho     Vancouver
Cancun         Goose_Bay      Martinique    Puerto_Rico     Virgin
Caracas        Grand_Turk     Mazatlan      Rainy_River     Whitehorse
Catamarca      Grenada        Mendoza       Rankin_Inlet    Winnipeg
Cayenne        Guadeloupe     Menominee     Recife          Yakutat
Cayman         Guatemala      Merida        Regina          Yellowknife

Antarctica:
Casey  DumontDUrville  McMurdo  Rothera     Syowa
Davis  Mawson          Palmer   South_Pole  Vostok

Arctic:
Longyearbyen

Asia:
Aden       Calcutta    Irkutsk       Macau        Riyadh     Thimbu
Almaty     Choibalsan  Istanbul      Magadan      Riyadh87   Thimphu
Amman      Chongqing   Jakarta       Makassar     Riyadh88   Tokyo
Anadyr     Chungking   Jayapura      Manila       Riyadh89   Ujung_Pandang
Aqtau      Colombo     Jerusalem     Muscat       Saigon     Ulaanbaatar
Aqtobe     Dacca       Kabul         Nicosia      Sakhalin   Ulan_Bator
Ashgabat   Damascus    Kamchatka     Novosibirsk  Samarkand  Urumqi
Ashkhabad  Dhaka       Karachi       Omsk         Seoul      Vientiane
Baghdad    Dili        Kashgar       Oral         Shanghai   Vladivostok
Bahrain    Dubai       Katmandu      Phnom_Penh   Singapore  Yakutsk
Baku       Dushanbe    Krasnoyarsk   Pontianak    Taipei     Yekaterinburg
Bangkok    Gaza        Kuala_Lumpur  Pyongyang    Tashkent   Yerevan
Beirut     Harbin      Kuching       Qatar        Tbilisi
Bishkek    Hong_Kong   Kuwait        Qyzylorda    Tehran
Brunei     Hovd        Macao         Rangoon      Tel_Aviv

Atlantic:
Azores   Canary      Faeroe  Jan_Mayen  Reykjavik      Stanley
Bermuda  Cape_Verde  Faroe   Madeira    South_Georgia  St_Helena

Australia:
ACT          Canberra  Hobart     Melbourne  Queensland  Victoria
Adelaide     Currie    LHI        North      South       West
Brisbane     Darwin    Lindeman   NSW        Sydney      Yancowinna
Broken_Hill  Eucla     Lord_Howe  Perth      Tasmania

Brazil:
Acre  DeNoronha  East  West

Canada:
Atlantic  Eastern            Mountain      Pacific       Yukon
Central   East-Saskatchewan  Newfoundland  Saskatchewan

Chile:
Continental  EasterIsland

Etc:
GMT    GMT-1   GMT-11  GMT-13  GMT-3  GMT-5  GMT-7  GMT-9      Universal
GMT0   GMT+1   GMT+11  GMT-14  GMT+3  GMT+5  GMT+7  GMT+9      UTC
GMT-0  GMT-10  GMT-12  GMT-2   GMT-4  GMT-6  GMT-8  Greenwich  Zulu
GMT+0  GMT+10  GMT+12  GMT+2   GMT+4  GMT+6  GMT+8  UCT

Europe:
Amsterdam   Chisinau     Kiev        Moscow      Sarajevo    Vatican
Andorra     Copenhagen   Lisbon      Nicosia     Simferopol  Vienna
Athens      Dublin       Ljubljana   Oslo        Skopje      Vilnius
Belfast     Gibraltar    London      Paris       Sofia       Volgograd
Belgrade    Guernsey     Luxembourg  Podgorica   Stockholm   Warsaw
Berlin      Helsinki     Madrid      Prague      Tallinn     Zagreb
Bratislava  Isle_of_Man  Malta       Riga        Tirane      Zaporozhye
Brussels    Istanbul     Mariehamn   Rome        Tiraspol    Zurich
Bucharest   Jersey       Minsk       Samara      Uzhgorod
Budapest    Kaliningrad  Monaco      San_Marino  Vaduz

Indian:
Antananarivo  Christmas  Comoro     Mahe      Mauritius  Reunion
Chagos        Cocos      Kerguelen  Maldives  Mayotte

Mexico:
BajaNorte  BajaSur  General

Mideast:
Riyadh87  Riyadh88  Riyadh89

Pacific:
Apia       Fakaofo      Guam        Majuro     Noumea        Rarotonga  Truk
Auckland   Fiji         Honolulu    Marquesas  Pago_Pago     Saipan     Wake
Chatham    Funafuti     Johnston    Midway     Palau         Samoa      Wallis
Easter     Galapagos    Kiritimati  Nauru      Pitcairn      Tahiti     Yap
Efate      Gambier      Kosrae      Niue       Ponape        Tarawa
Enderbury  Guadalcanal  Kwajalein   Norfolk    Port_Moresby  Tongatapu

posix:
Africa      CET      Etc      Greenwich  Kwajalein  NZ-CHAT    SystemV
America     Chile    Europe   Hongkong   Libya      Pacific    Turkey
Antarctica  CST6CDT  Factory  HST        MET        Poland     UCT
Arctic      Cuba     GB       Iceland    Mexico     Portugal   Universal
Asia        EET      GB-Eire  Indian     Mideast    PRC        US
Atlantic    Egypt    GMT      Iran       MST        PST8PDT    UTC
Australia   Eire     GMT0     Israel     MST7MDT    ROC        WET
Brazil      EST      GMT-0    Jamaica    Navajo     ROK        W-SU
Canada      EST5EDT  GMT+0    Japan      NZ         Singapore  Zulu

right:
Africa      CET      Etc      Greenwich  Kwajalein  NZ-CHAT    SystemV
America     Chile    Europe   Hongkong   Libya      Pacific    Turkey
Antarctica  CST6CDT  Factory  HST        MET        Poland     UCT
Arctic      Cuba     GB       Iceland    Mexico     Portugal   Universal
Asia        EET      GB-Eire  Indian     Mideast    PRC        US
Atlantic    Egypt    GMT      Iran       MST        PST8PDT    UTC
Australia   Eire     GMT0     Israel     MST7MDT    ROC        WET
Brazil      EST      GMT-0    Jamaica    Navajo     ROK        W-SU
Canada      EST5EDT  GMT+0    Japan      NZ         Singapore  Zulu

SystemV:
AST4     CST6     EST5     HST10  MST7MDT  PST8PDT  YST9YDT
AST4ADT  CST6CDT  EST5EDT  MST7   PST8     YST9

US:
Alaska    Arizona  Eastern       Hawaii          Michigan  Pacific
Aleutian  Central  East-Indiana  Indiana-Starke  Mountain  Samoa

A great teacher, does not provide answers, but methods to teach others "How and where to find the answers"

bsh

37 years Bell, AT&T, Lucent, Avaya
Tier 3 for 27 years and counting
 
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If you program it correctly, nothing will ever have to be done manually.

I apologize for causing your confusion.

A great teacher, does not provide answers, but methods to teach others "How and where to find the answers"

bsh

37 years Bell, AT&T, Lucent, Avaya
Tier 3 for 27 years and counting
 
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Light Bulb!!!!!!

I finally got it.

The Start dates for Norway will always be March 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31. Rule 2 programming for Norway is
Start = first Sunday on/after March 25 we will not have to change the date every year.

The Stop dates for Norway will always be Oct 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31. We will need to change Norway's Rule 2 to
Stop = first Sunday on/after Oct 25 we will not have to change the date every year.

whew....thanks for your patience!!!

 
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