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Create a test database ???? 1
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New server? - if so - same platform?
How big is your PROD database?
How many schemas do you got in the PROD database?
(Depending of your reply, there is diff. possibilities). Regards
Allan
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New server? - if so - same platform?
How big is your PROD database?
How many schemas do you got in the PROD database?
(Depending of your reply, there is diff. possibilities). Regards
Allan
Icq: 346225948
! If you can't prove it - don't bother try to teach me !
koushikc15
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hiiiiiii all
i have pIII i ghz,128 mb ram,win nt and also oracle 8i installed.i want to install oracle 9i also.will there be any problem installing or there will be any conflict.plz guide me
i have pIII i ghz,128 mb ram,win nt and also oracle 8i installed.i want to install oracle 9i also.will there be any problem installing or there will be any conflict.plz guide me
Hi Koushikc15
You wrote Win NT – I guess it is Win NT 4.0 (Workstation or server?). And I guess it’s for yourself because your hardware is small.
If you ask Oracle, then they answer – ‘Oracle 9i is certified to Windows 2K and above’ – but you do not need to follow these roles.
You got some “small” conflicts installing Oracle 9i - just create a new home directory during installation and a new Service Name(SID) and then you need to use another port for the listener or use only 9i listener for both instances.
However you got a problem with RAM.
Win NT 4.0 does not have a LRU list (Last Recent Used) on items in RAM.
When Win NT needs a free ram for a resource, it just take the first ram item in memory and put it in the Swapfile – and use the memory to the new item. And because Win NT does not have a LRU list, it constant swaps items in and out of memory, because it probable takes active items and swaps.
Until Oracle 8.0.x Oracle recommends minimum 128 Mb ram
From Oracle 8i – Oracle recommends minimum 256 Mb ram.
Now you can run both instance at the same time, if performance is very low and your harddisks is active all the time/often, then put more memory in your PC.
You can’t have same Service/SID name for both instances. If you followed a standard Oracle8i installation, then you created a Service name ORCL (old days called SID). You must give the new instance in 9i another name.
It is possible to use a LISTENER from both versions, but I would deactivate Oracle 8i listener in Windows Service and only runs with Oracle 9i listener. Use Net manager to setup the listener so it sees both instances.
If you only use the PC for Oracle 8i and 9i, and you do not want to use more money on the PC, then I would try to get Linux Redhat 8.0, Oracle 8i and 9i to Linux. Linux runs better on small hardware than Windows with Oracle. But be sure you can get assistance from somebody near you – if you aren’t familiar with Linux.
If you want to “copy” data between the databases, then use exp.exe from Oracle 8i and exp.exe also from Oracle 8i to import the data into Oracle 9i. And you need to let Oracle 8i “knows” that a service on 9i exists – use Net8 assistant to setup local service names and add 9i service name.
If I was you – I would install oracle 9i – do the things in the databases I need to do – and if it is too slow for me, I would increase memory. I guess you are only trying to know Oracle
Regards
Allan
Icq: 346225948
! If you can't prove it - don't bother try to teach me !
You wrote Win NT – I guess it is Win NT 4.0 (Workstation or server?). And I guess it’s for yourself because your hardware is small.
If you ask Oracle, then they answer – ‘Oracle 9i is certified to Windows 2K and above’ – but you do not need to follow these roles.
You got some “small” conflicts installing Oracle 9i - just create a new home directory during installation and a new Service Name(SID) and then you need to use another port for the listener or use only 9i listener for both instances.
However you got a problem with RAM.
Win NT 4.0 does not have a LRU list (Last Recent Used) on items in RAM.
When Win NT needs a free ram for a resource, it just take the first ram item in memory and put it in the Swapfile – and use the memory to the new item. And because Win NT does not have a LRU list, it constant swaps items in and out of memory, because it probable takes active items and swaps.
Until Oracle 8.0.x Oracle recommends minimum 128 Mb ram
From Oracle 8i – Oracle recommends minimum 256 Mb ram.
Now you can run both instance at the same time, if performance is very low and your harddisks is active all the time/often, then put more memory in your PC.
You can’t have same Service/SID name for both instances. If you followed a standard Oracle8i installation, then you created a Service name ORCL (old days called SID). You must give the new instance in 9i another name.
It is possible to use a LISTENER from both versions, but I would deactivate Oracle 8i listener in Windows Service and only runs with Oracle 9i listener. Use Net manager to setup the listener so it sees both instances.
If you only use the PC for Oracle 8i and 9i, and you do not want to use more money on the PC, then I would try to get Linux Redhat 8.0, Oracle 8i and 9i to Linux. Linux runs better on small hardware than Windows with Oracle. But be sure you can get assistance from somebody near you – if you aren’t familiar with Linux.
If you want to “copy” data between the databases, then use exp.exe from Oracle 8i and exp.exe also from Oracle 8i to import the data into Oracle 9i. And you need to let Oracle 8i “knows” that a service on 9i exists – use Net8 assistant to setup local service names and add 9i service name.
If I was you – I would install oracle 9i – do the things in the databases I need to do – and if it is too slow for me, I would increase memory. I guess you are only trying to know Oracle
Regards
Allan
Icq: 346225948
! If you can't prove it - don't bother try to teach me !
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Well if you are new to Oracle - then I would use the "save" way of doing it.
1. First you query dba_tablespaces to see tablespaces in current system
2. Then you export the current database by writing in OS
exp userid=system/manager@NetServiceName full=yes file=dump.dmp log=dump.txt consistent=yes compress=no
3. Now you install a new database by running Database Configuration Assistance
You need to decide a Service name (SID) for this database – ex. CPDB
You create all the tablespaces found in no. 1 and ether set filesize correct or use auto extend on
4. You import the database by writing in OS
imp system/manager@cpdb full=yes file=dump.dmp log=dump_in.txt ignore=yes commit=yes
Now you got a copy of the database.
Regards
Allan
Icq: 346225948
! If you can't prove it - don't bother try to teach me !
1. First you query dba_tablespaces to see tablespaces in current system
2. Then you export the current database by writing in OS
exp userid=system/manager@NetServiceName full=yes file=dump.dmp log=dump.txt consistent=yes compress=no
3. Now you install a new database by running Database Configuration Assistance
You need to decide a Service name (SID) for this database – ex. CPDB
You create all the tablespaces found in no. 1 and ether set filesize correct or use auto extend on
4. You import the database by writing in OS
imp system/manager@cpdb full=yes file=dump.dmp log=dump_in.txt ignore=yes commit=yes
Now you got a copy of the database.
Regards
Allan
Icq: 346225948
! If you can't prove it - don't bother try to teach me !
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