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[snootalope]

I've been reading different posts in here for the past half hour...and it seems like there is a cloud haning over each one of us IT folks, and if there isn't a cloud...the feeling of getting stuck under one just won't go away... I've been thinking so much about all this computer stuff in general...Were due for another HUGE jump in technology.. what significant advance has been introduced in the last 3 or 4 years besides flat panles and gigabit cards? I mean, it's I just got this weird feeling that anyday something way out of the norm is gonna hit and the IT guys who really want to be here are going to thrive on it and be rewarded gratiously.. just my idea.. I'm sick of all this talk about, "IT has gone to $#%& and we're all going with it" the hell with that.. Look at the market right now.. unless you spent the last 12 years in law school or the military..your worried.. Even my dad, who's a CFO/Vice President of a college, is worried about retiring by a time he was hoping...this guy knows more about the market than I know about windows 95 (lol)!!! It's up, it's down...we just gotta ride the wave till the next big IT advance comes along and we enjoy the world for another few years..

On an ending note........:::::::::KEEP THE FAITH:::::::...... "tis better to remain silent and be thought of as a fool..
then open your mouth and remove all doubt" Mark Twain

"I should of been a doctor.." Me

 

[mudskipper]

Okay, my only comment is that you gave me a good laugh!

After that message, your signature line reads (in part),
"I should of been a doctor.." Me

LOL Mudskipper
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[sleipnir214]

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[mudskipper]

sleipnir214-- You're being caaaaaaaaaantankerous! ;-)

snootalope-- You are right in that something has to give. I get the impression that the question for most techs is not when something gives, but what is going to give first.....

Your sig really did make me laugh, though.... Mudskipper
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[snootalope]

..lol.. I never even thought about that.. what kind of two-faced techie bastard am I anyway's... lol
"tis better to remain silent and be thought of as a fool..
then open your mouth and remove all doubt" Mark Twain

"I should of been a doctor.." Me

 

[CharlieJax]

Life is about balance... once you loose that, then you will feel that you have fallen under a cloud.

Perhaps it is not the IT field that is the problem, but us ourselves. Many people have taken themselves and created a worse situation than they need to.

Yes, the market is down, yes the IT sector is hurting, but there is still light out there, you just need to know where to look.

In the years to come all of this will change as biotechnology and nanotechnology completely rework the way we look at the world.

IT isn't a pasing phase, its a child on the verge of its teenage years and were just stuck in puberty at the moment.

Don't be afraid of the future, embrace it, face it with your feet planted and remember you can take it, the cowards got out of IT and joined the police department.

Personaly the market downturn shouldn't have come as a shock to people, it was predicted by analysts as the dot com craze took off... what they didn't see was the additional factors, but again, balance will protect you. Stocks are down, Bonds are up (sort of ... Real Estate is booming (WOOO HA Housing bubble here we come)

Life isn't about how you deal with the happy times, its about how you take on the adversity. Stress isn't worrying about getting your job done on time, or if your project will be canceled... these things we worry about don't mean anything in the long run.

Enjoy your time, it will be over sooner than you think and do you really want to look back and say "Why did I spend all that time worrying about the IT sector?" Your not going to get the time back.

Oh yeah... got stress? Exercise and eat right.

Fix yourself and everything else will follow.

Snoot ya got it right, it's not that bad... or we wouldn't have the time to complain about it.

CJ

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[Provogeek]

Great post CJ!

Basically, I look at it this way.

As long as there are computers, there will be a need for IT. Because all the lawyers, doctors, teachers, foreperson, stock broker, CEO, CFO, CIO, CXO will need us, will always need us, and can never get rid of us. If electricity runs through it, a tech of some kind will be needed.

The only people I have seen loose their jobs aside from companies going belly up are;

People who horde information in fear of job security. If you keep information away from the rest of your team, eventually someone will get tired of it. There is always someone out there that knows more than you. These people are ready to take a contract to discover what the people hide. I do this on a regular basis. It really is not that hard and there are no special tricks to cracking passwords, discovering network topology, and discovering server configuration when you have physical access to the system. So if you keep info from people just because you don’t want anyone else to know the special “trick” you have for setting up some program, or being the one with all the master passwords, or being the one that “knows” how the network is setup .. be careful, your boss may be talking to my boss and I’ll be stepping in to help your manager terminate you.

People with huge egos and not enough to back it up. We IT people all have an ego, but if you can't back your stuff up it will blow up in your face. It's also very annoying, and many people don’t know the limits. Egos do have limits and IT needs to know when they should back off on some argument with management. My company and many of my clients dropped the ego jerks, even if they had a high level of talent. In the consulting world, you tic a customer off with your ego translates to lost revenue when they drop the entire company.

People who are flat out jerks. If you give your end user attitude, expect them to get angry with you. Do it enough and management will replace you. There are a lot of people to choose from and out sourcing is growing, even in the down turn. With out end users, there wouldn't be an IT department. End users are your job, be nice to them and they will be nice to you. And if your good, you can even get an end user to say they are sorry for their bad attitude, cause even the end user gets a little heated some times. Doesn't mean you can give it back. Many people in IT have this problem, get some training to smooth it out. My company has a very hard time finding good engineers because customer skills is also needed along with technical skill in the consulting world (and the IT/MIS world in my own belief).

And last and most annoying are the ones that got the IT job because they KNEW someone, that’s it. No education, no training, no certifications, and no experience. These people usually just play Unreal all day and have very un happy end users and give all of IT a bad rap. When ever I do network audits in companies that have these people, end users are not shy to tell me how much of an idiot their IT people are. These were the first to go, and I rolled on the floor laughing when it happened.



So if you’re a talented network engineer with a balanced ego and good customer service skills, you will continue to prosper in the IT industry. It’s never going away, and it’s pretty much bottomed out. So there just is no place to go but up
Brent Schmidt CNE,Network +
Senior Network Engineer

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[GlenJohnson]

IT is here to stay. The problem I have is getting my certifications the hard way, but awnsering to a Novell 4.0 clown, who doesn't know anything about W2K or Microsoft. He actually wanted me to turn off 2 domain controllers because he didn't think we needed them. I would dearly love to find another job in IT, but there not out there currently. Either my patience will go first and I'll leave the field, or one of the many resumes I've submitted will come through and I can move onto the REAL world.

Glen A. Johnson
Johnson Computer Consulting
MCP W2K
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[snootalope]

"Either my patience will go first and I'll leave the field, or one of the many resumes I've submitted will come through and I can move onto the REAL world." Oh my god...you just put exactly what i'm feeling into words.. wow ..that it just to true right now..

Glen..a bit of advice.. get in good with a consultant of anykind that is in someway related to IT. Those people talk to more businesses than anyone you'll ever meet.. I'm currently good friends with two different consultants and they both tell me about job openings before thier even available, if ya know what I mean.. ;-) ...that doesn't mean sh*t though i guess.. ha ha "tis better to remain silent and be thought of as a fool..
then open your mouth and remove all doubt" Mark Twain

"I should of been a doctor.." Me

 

[mudskipper]

Said it before, I'll say it again...
"(It's) not when something gives, but what is going to give first" Mudskipper
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[fuziman]

Three cheers to Brent Schmidt. You've got it exactly right.



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[GlenJohnson]

I know a consultant who was on one of the teams that wrote W2K, and he lives about 90 miles away. I think I'll e-mail him and ask for advice about building my own consulting company. I've started Johnson Computer Consulting, and have managed to get the word out, so I'm hoping that this will at least generate some real cash, and mabye save my sanity.

Glen A. Johnson
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MCP W2K
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[Tarwn]

Don't think I could leave the field. I have reached a point where computers are part of the definition of me, if you know what I mean. I think nothing of doing a google search when I need a phone number, email is second nature, etc.
I don't think I could ever get it out of my system...when I need a quick budgeting application I will write my own before going to the store to buy one, or worse yet get out a pen a paper and write one of those lists that ineveitably gets lost until such a time as it no longer makes sense.

I spend more time in front of my computer in my free time than I do in front of the TV and wouldn't be able to stand not poking at it constantly to see what I can make it do.

The way it looks now, there are so many fields available and so many disciplines that no matter how much I disliked a job I think there would always be another field completely differant that would be more enjoyable but would still be technically oriented.

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[MasterRacker]

Glen, good luck. I think starting your own company is the only way to bring sanity. I think I know what you mean by real world, but I also think that's a pretty small place. Unforutnately, most of us work in one corner or another of Dilbertland.

(then again, I could just be having a bad day myself... ;-) )
Jeff
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[snootalope]

Yeah good luck Glen!! Owning my own business has always been a dream, someday maybe it'll become reality...who knows.. anyhow.. good luck in Jersey.. "tis better to remain silent and be thought of as a fool..
then open your mouth and remove all doubt" Mark Twain

"I should of been a doctor.." Me