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Corporate Spybot or Adaware? 1
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Mcafee's current AV, VirusScan Enterprise 7.1, can already detect "Potentially unwanted programs" as well as viruses, trojans etc. They seem to classify a large number of adware and spywares as subtypes of this.
It can have a down side though, as some very useful utilities are also detected as "Potentially unwanted programs". Also, automatic cleaning may not be available, but at least the ad/spyware is detected.
Notes on their website say that the next version, VirusScan Enterprise 8.0i, will continue this. The release date for that has recently been put back to 1th August so I don't know how/if the functionality will change.
VSE8.0i will also have some firewall/IPS functionality and I expect that to become standard too.
It can have a down side though, as some very useful utilities are also detected as "Potentially unwanted programs". Also, automatic cleaning may not be available, but at least the ad/spyware is detected.
Notes on their website say that the next version, VirusScan Enterprise 8.0i, will continue this. The release date for that has recently been put back to 1th August so I don't know how/if the functionality will change.
VSE8.0i will also have some firewall/IPS functionality and I expect that to become standard too.
PestPatrol has a credible corporate version (V5). It is currently my number 3 spyware detection tool (after SpyBot (freeware)and my licensed AdAware Plus):
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We have the NAV CE 9, and I read the new features list where it is supposed to do that, But, after installing, I see nothing that relates to that. I wonder if it just treats them as a "virus". Anyone know of a good article on how to manage this new feature. I am not seeing it in the manual or cant find it on symantec.
How good is this new anti-spyware feature from Symantec ver. 9? We are looking to implement a firm wide anti-trojan/spyware tool alongside Symantec specifically because Symantec detects so little regarding trojans.
I was leaning towards PestPatrol ver. 5.
I was leaning towards PestPatrol ver. 5.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but NAVCE 9.0 does not actively protect against adware, but rather only functions like Ad-Aware or Spybot and a scan has to be started on your harddrive to locate and remove adware. If I am correct, it would be great if they created it so that it will keep adware from installing (just like it does for it's virus scan).
Hi Epohl,
Pest Patrol version 5 does indeed have a centrally manager corporate addition.
You can download an evaluation copy for free. I have tested it out a bit and it looks great. According to the reviews I have been reading, people seem fairly happy with it.
Pest Patrol version 5 does indeed have a centrally manager corporate addition.
You can download an evaluation copy for free. I have tested it out a bit and it looks great. According to the reviews I have been reading, people seem fairly happy with it.
I am currently testing out Spy Sweeper Enterprise ( ) and Im extreemely happy with the results. Granted its yet another client running on your workstations but the ability to smoke of programs like weatherbug that your users just must have is a blessing that all admins should have. You can specify it to run in "quite" mode so the user has no clue your taking away all their web toys.
Shadicus,
What is the cost on SpySweeper Enterprise? We presently have a huge AD project going on, but once it's done we may be able to consider something like this. First question in a company like ours though, is going to be, "What's it cost?"
Especially since we're shelling out about $200K for the AD upgrade. Then again, after this, my boss may just want to lay low for a bit and hope upper management doesn't have a cow, rather than take another expendature proposal to them.![[smile]](/data/assets/smilies/smile.gif "[smile] [smile]")
"The Crystal Wind is the storm, and the storm is data, and the data is life. You have been slaves, denied the storm, denied the freedom of your data. That is now ended; the whirlwind is upon you . . . . . . Whether you like it or not."
"Trent the Uncatchable" in The Long Run by Daniel Keys Moran
What is the cost on SpySweeper Enterprise? We presently have a huge AD project going on, but once it's done we may be able to consider something like this. First question in a company like ours though, is going to be, "What's it cost?"
Especially since we're shelling out about $200K for the AD upgrade. Then again, after this, my boss may just want to lay low for a bit and hope upper management doesn't have a cow, rather than take another expendature proposal to them.
"The Crystal Wind is the storm, and the storm is data, and the data is life. You have been slaves, denied the storm, denied the freedom of your data. That is now ended; the whirlwind is upon you . . . . . . Whether you like it or not."
"Trent the Uncatchable" in The Long Run by Daniel Keys Moran
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mattjurado
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My 2 cents...
As a field engineer that sees this stuff everyday, Pestpatrol does the most thorough job. I have only been using it a few weeks, but I have had the opportunity to test THROROUGHLY.
I have used Spybot, Ad-Aware, Spysweeper, Norton Antivirus, McAfee, and I ALWAYS, not sometimes, ALWAYS find MULTIPLE items that these other programs miss, even when they have the latest definitions/updates. I'm not talking about a few cookies either, but usually executables, library files, and registry keys that the others miss completely.
Conversely, if I use say Ad-Aware or Spysweeper after Pestpatrol, I'll find only a few things left behind, and these are usually cookies or on occasion, a registry entry or two. I liked Spysweeper, but I have trouble running it in safe mode (the display is often too large to click on things to see what you are doing), and it often fails to load on XP, with software list errors. They even mailed me a new build, didn't help.
Bottom line, PestPatrol does the best job of any of the tools. To be thorough, when cleaning spyware, I recommend using at least 2 tools. I use PestPatrol and then Ad-Aware.
If your desktops are over a 1ghz processor, and run antivirus, I haven't seen a noticeable slowdown, and users have not complained to me yet about their applications being slow. Seems to operate well on a day to day basis. My once favorite tool Spybot misses A LOT OF THINGS NOW!
For corporate environments, I would use the PestPatrol Product for defense, and not rely on your Antivirus to do an adequate job. I've seen lots of machines running Norton 2004, covered with active spywares/adwares.
Matt J.
Please always take the time to backup any and all data before performing any actions suggested for ANY problem, regardless of how minor a change it might seem. Also test the backup to make sure it is intact.
As a field engineer that sees this stuff everyday, Pestpatrol does the most thorough job. I have only been using it a few weeks, but I have had the opportunity to test THROROUGHLY.
I have used Spybot, Ad-Aware, Spysweeper, Norton Antivirus, McAfee, and I ALWAYS, not sometimes, ALWAYS find MULTIPLE items that these other programs miss, even when they have the latest definitions/updates. I'm not talking about a few cookies either, but usually executables, library files, and registry keys that the others miss completely.
Conversely, if I use say Ad-Aware or Spysweeper after Pestpatrol, I'll find only a few things left behind, and these are usually cookies or on occasion, a registry entry or two. I liked Spysweeper, but I have trouble running it in safe mode (the display is often too large to click on things to see what you are doing), and it often fails to load on XP, with software list errors. They even mailed me a new build, didn't help.
Bottom line, PestPatrol does the best job of any of the tools. To be thorough, when cleaning spyware, I recommend using at least 2 tools. I use PestPatrol and then Ad-Aware.
If your desktops are over a 1ghz processor, and run antivirus, I haven't seen a noticeable slowdown, and users have not complained to me yet about their applications being slow. Seems to operate well on a day to day basis. My once favorite tool Spybot misses A LOT OF THINGS NOW!
For corporate environments, I would use the PestPatrol Product for defense, and not rely on your Antivirus to do an adequate job. I've seen lots of machines running Norton 2004, covered with active spywares/adwares.
Matt J.
Please always take the time to backup any and all data before performing any actions suggested for ANY problem, regardless of how minor a change it might seem. Also test the backup to make sure it is intact.
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I did the trial of spysweeper enterprise, installed it through AD, the clients report it as being installed, and even email me reports, I had the "server" app running, it would not report or let me control the clients. Like they were not even there.
I think it (spysweeper) has potential, but is not ready.
I have a theory that one of the AV makers will buy Adaware or Spybot and incorporate it into there product;
Adaware or Spybot (or someone) will come out with a "killer" app that will run in a server-client relationship like norton;
or Microsoft will "license" a "enterprise" version of the GIANT spyware product they just acquired.
Either way, I hope someone hurrys up!
If anyone has a system in place that is EASILY administered and WORKS, let me know!
I think it (spysweeper) has potential, but is not ready.
I have a theory that one of the AV makers will buy Adaware or Spybot and incorporate it into there product;
Adaware or Spybot (or someone) will come out with a "killer" app that will run in a server-client relationship like norton;
or Microsoft will "license" a "enterprise" version of the GIANT spyware product they just acquired.
Either way, I hope someone hurrys up!
If anyone has a system in place that is EASILY administered and WORKS, let me know!
Mike Lewis
Programmer
For what it's worth, the April 2005 issue of PC Word has a comparitive review of anti-spyware/adware programs. If you go to and search for spyware, you'll probably find it straight away.
Their top choice was Sunbelt Software CounterSpy, with Webroot Software Spy Sweeper a close second. This magazine had previously spoken ecstatically about Spybot and Ad-Aware, but they said these both these products now fall short of the two mentioned above. (The article spells out the criteria they used.)
Personally, I use Spybot, but it doesn't seem to do a great job of permanently blocking spyware, so maybe I'll switch.
Mike
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Mike Lewis (Edinburgh, Scotland)
My sites:
Visual FoxPro (www.ml-consult.demon.co.uk)
Crystal Reports (www.ml-crystal.com)
Their top choice was Sunbelt Software CounterSpy, with Webroot Software Spy Sweeper a close second. This magazine had previously spoken ecstatically about Spybot and Ad-Aware, but they said these both these products now fall short of the two mentioned above. (The article spells out the criteria they used.)
Personally, I use Spybot, but it doesn't seem to do a great job of permanently blocking spyware, so maybe I'll switch.
Mike
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Mike Lewis (Edinburgh, Scotland)
My sites:
Visual FoxPro (www.ml-consult.demon.co.uk)
Crystal Reports (www.ml-crystal.com)
In addition, that article did not fully test the MS product. So keep an eye out for when someone does a truly comparative test between them all (prior to being purchased by MS GIANT, was one of the more lauded applications).
In addition, there is supposed to be a management option coming with the full release of the MS antispyware package. I believe it was BCastner that I've seen mention it, but I haven't done any heavy research on this yet.
In addition, there is supposed to be a management option coming with the full release of the MS antispyware package. I believe it was BCastner that I've seen mention it, but I haven't done any heavy research on this yet.
Mike Lewis
Programmer
Acquias,
that article did not fully test the MS product
That's true -- the beta had only just been released when the article was being written. But they did say that at a first glance, it "looks like a winner".
Mike
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Mike Lewis (Edinburgh, Scotland)
My sites:
Visual FoxPro (www.ml-consult.demon.co.uk)
Crystal Reports (www.ml-crystal.com)
that article did not fully test the MS product
That's true -- the beta had only just been released when the article was being written. But they did say that at a first glance, it "looks like a winner".
Mike
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Mike Lewis (Edinburgh, Scotland)
My sites:
Visual FoxPro (www.ml-consult.demon.co.uk)
Crystal Reports (www.ml-crystal.com)
The problem with both these products and the reason I will be sticking with a SpyBot/Ad-Aware combination, is that they both expect you to fork out on an annual basis.
I have said this before, we will never be rid of internet junk, unless the tools to keep it in check are 'freely' avalible in all senses of the word.
Sorry about the rant.
Steve
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I have said this before, we will never be rid of internet junk, unless the tools to keep it in check are 'freely' avalible in all senses of the word.
Sorry about the rant.
Steve
Life is like a Grapefruit, sort of orangey-yellow and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle, it's got pips inside too. Oh and some people have half a one for breakfast. Ford Prefect.
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I don't believe free tools will be any kind of deterent of internet junk.
I will be more than glad to pay (pay for antivirus now) for a product that will help me take back control of the PC's from spyware. My network might not be huge, but, It would take a full time staffer to go run both adaware and spybot on all machines.
I would rather spend a quarter of that guys salary on a product that would allow the systems admin to contorl it all from his desk.
I will be more than glad to pay (pay for antivirus now) for a product that will help me take back control of the PC's from spyware. My network might not be huge, but, It would take a full time staffer to go run both adaware and spybot on all machines.
I would rather spend a quarter of that guys salary on a product that would allow the systems admin to contorl it all from his desk.
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