Copying files erro

[r69]

Every time i try copying files between my disks, I get this message.

The item "my photo1.jpg" cannot be written becuase an error of type -412 occured. Do you wish to continue?

It happens with many files and on many disks. When I choose continue, the dialog box closes and nothing else happens.

What is the cause of this, what is an error-412, and how do I fix it? I've looked on the net and not been able to find it. I've been insulted by other people saying there is no such error and saying I'm full of BS. But, I AM GETTING THIS ERROR. I can send you a screen shot if you don't believe me. Send me you email and I'll send it to you.

My Mac is a 7600 upgraded to a Cressendo G3/300 with 384MB of memory. The disks are both Maxtor 120GB drives. The OS is 9.1

Please help! I'm stuck not being able to transfer data at all.

 

[Ecaboodle]

Have you tried running Norton on the HDD? Has this started since the upgrade?

If you can't fix it in 20 minutes call someone who can.

 

[PTmon]

In addition to P20's excellent suggestion for running Norton or some other drive utility, have you rebuilt the desktop?
PT

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[freereyes]

I have an iMac at home that has the same error -412. There are a few other people that are having the same problem. It seems to only happen when transferring files from one hard drive to another. Files that are un-transferable because of the error -412 can be compressed then transferred this seem to be the only work around. There is no known fix.

 

[www1234]

I've found a solution to the "error of type -412" problem. Only some of my tif files seemed to be causing this error, and only when I tried to copy them from a folder to the desktop or to another folder.

I opened one of the tif files in Photoshop, and saved it again. (overwriting the previous file.) I was then able to copy that file to other folders without getting the 412 error message.

I ran a batch action in Photoshop to open each tif file, save it, then close it. I have several thousand tif files, so it took a while. However, once the batch action was finished, all the files were free of the 412 error.

(To run a batch in Photoshop, first create an action to save a file and close it. Then under the file menu, select automate, and select a folder. The action will run on every file in that folder. I believe Photoshop 6 or higher is needed.)

Any macro program could accomplish the same thing.

I also noticed that I had bad file associations in my File Exchange control panel. I deleted the file association for tif and tiff. I'm not sure if this was part of the problem, but it seemed reasonable to delete them.

 

[gotska]

I have this problem as well. I have a Powerbook Lombard G3 with OS 9.2.2 with two firewire external hard disks connected.
When copying from one disk to the other I had the error.
Some files copy - other not.
I have rebuilt the desktop and reinstalled the drivers for the disks - the error is still there.
Someone told me this is a problem with older Macs and newer hard disks. The Mac get too much information to handle. The solution should be to partition the hard disk in smaller parts. An older Mac should have 20GB partitions. Anyway, I can't do that when I have this problem because the problem occur whan the 80GB disk already has 40GB on it. - (Catch 22) -.
Anyway, I think I have a solution.
The operating system (OS 9.2.2 ) came with a control panel named "File Synchronization". I use that to sync from one external firewire hard drive to the other. I have done it with a 730MB folder that I couldn't copy before. "File Synchronization" copied the folder without problems. "File Synchronization" is much slower than normal copying, thats probably why it works better. Anyway it works really smooth in the background and if you interrupt the synchronization it will start from where you stopped it.
I will go on to copy the big folders next week (12 GB). It will probably take several days. Then we will see if it works.

 

[gotska]

Using "File Synchronization" seem to work to transfer files to a disk with the error -412. But it is really slow and why should you do all this work to tranfer files to a corrupt disk? What to do is to copy the files to another disk and format the drive.

 

[r69]

Thanks for all the great suggestions... I've never used the file sync feature before. Is there anything special I should do or look out for when using it? Is there any online reference for using the feature? I've asked my MAC friends here, but none of them has ever used this feature. Some pointers about it would be helpful.

Will the recovery still work if I upgrade to 9.2.2 on a second disk, restart on that disk, then copy from the corrupted HDD to the new drive? Or should I have two extra drives, one for the backup copies of my files, and one for the system file. Will 9.2.2 work ok with the new 120GB drives, or must I cut it into 6 20GB partitions first.

Any guesstimate on how long it would take an 80GB drive to recover with file sync? And why is it that the official Apple list of error codes doesn't include -412? That has been most troubling as tech reps haven't believed me when I inquire about it. And they have gotten really insulting about it calling me a liar and a crank and saying that I'm wasting their time... oh well I'm glad to see some light at the end of this tunnel. Thanks so much!

 

[gotska]

I had this problem on one 100GB disk so I bought a new 200GB disk and cut it into 2 100GB partitions.  But since the data is corrupt it is not easy to copy to the other disk. In fact I got the message "not enough space on disk" all the time because the computer didn't seem to understand the amount of data. In fact I think that is what error -412 is all about. The computer thinks the amount of data is bigger than it actually is.
In fact I had to copy something like 50GB into what is like 100GB of disk space. Now I am afraid that the -412 error will appear on the new disk since there is evidently something wrong with the data count.
I think the best thing to do is to buy a DVD-writer and do DVDs on this data. At least that won't corrupt another disk.
Anyway I did format the old disk and I hope the problem is gone on that disk at least.
Fyi: I have tried Norton Utilities 5.0 and apples "Disk First Aid". They can't fix the error. The bad thing is that Norton 5.0 now when checking the new disk gives the message "Norton disk doctor cannot fix a problem" during "checking directories: Extents Structure"


-Is there anything special I should do or look out for when using it?
--- You find file sync in the control panel of OS 9.2.2. It is easy to use.
But - as I said before: it is really slow and why should you do all this work to transfer files to a corrupt disk? What to do is to copy the files to another disk and format the drive.


-Will 9.2.2 work ok with the new 120GB drives, or must I cut it into 6 20GB partitions first.  
---I'm not sure about the cutting into small partitions. I just know that a lot of people do that. Maybe someone else can answer why? Maybe you don't need to do that with OS9?

-Any guesstimate on how long it would take an 80GB drive to recover with file sync? 
---A LONG time. I think one week. If you decide to do it - put file sync in the "start with" folder in the system and choose "automatic". In that way the sync starts when you put on the computer. Otherwise you have to start it manually.

-And why is it that the official Apple list of error codes doesn't include -412?
---I suppose it is because there is no solution for this problem. And tech reps usually don't like to admit that.