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Convert laptop to Micros 3700 Workstation??? 1
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Yes. WHats the OS & whats the Micros version? I would do it in a small cafe with no more than 3 workstations. Set it up to do nothing when the lid is closed and you have the perfect setup! How much RAM & CPU speed? Alternatively you can run it on a VM on the laptop!
Steve
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Hi,
ok, only RES5 (which hasnt been released yet) will work on Win7 & Server 2008. So, I run VMWare and run RES4 on XP, and bridge the connection to the local network. I have run hotels like this while rebuilding their servers.
Its easy, even the licence key is available to the VM shell when you plug it in!! Really
Are you familiar with VMWare Player or VMware at all? I use VMWare to build all the RES versions and take snapshots whereas VMware Player can play only 1 snapshot (the current one).
The key points are:
1. IIS, Dotnet1.1 & ASP are installed
2. C:\ for OS & Apps
3. D:\ for Data (say 10GB)
4. User temp VARS are set to the same as OS temp vars
5. Rename the server before installing Micros unless you have the correct setname application
Otherwise the Micros RES 3700 Version 4.0 Installation Procedure is:
1. Enter Bios Settings when starting up and check Hyper-Threading is disabled. If it was enabled, then run “Devcon” program also.
2. Ensure Internet Information Services (IIS) is installed – Add Remove Windows Components
3. Enter the correct IP Address is set in the server.
4. Ensure the Server Name is correct. After Micros is installed this may only be changed by using the “Set Name Utility” for Res 4.
5. Ensure Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1 has been loaded
6. Ensure Windows 2003 Service Pack 1 or Windows XP Service Pack 2 is loaded.
7. Ensure the Correct Date, Time & Time Zone are set on the server
8. Make Environmental Variables the same- TMP/TEMP should both be TEMP.
9. Install the Micros Res 4 Pre Requisite files (setup.exe in the Pre Req folder).
10. Install MICROS Res 4 (Load Micros as Administrator) to C:\Program Files.
Install the database to D:\Micros.
• At the “Select Features” page, tick all options.
• When prompted, install the standard Australian Res 4 Shell Database by choosing “Install Your Own Database”.
• If the Drive letter needs to be changed of the C or D Drive, do so through Control Panel – Administrative Tools – Computer Management – Disk Management.
11. Ensure the database will start. Then stop database and load any necessary Micros service packs.
12. Input Micros License Codes.
13. Install asat clean procedure:
• Place AsatClean file in Micros/Res/Pos/Scripts folder.
• Create a key in the registry under HKEY_Local_Machine_Software/Micros/3700 called AsatClean
• Within that key, create a string called ‘Path’ with the value of D:\Temp
• Create a System Environment Variable called ASTMP with the value of D:\Temp
• Create a folder under the D Drive called Temp and ensure it is shared.
14. Place FilemainV4.bat file in Micros/Res/Pos/Scripts folder
15. Create necessary user:
• Create the user through Control Panel – Admin Tools – Computer Management – Local Users & Groups
• Create a user called Micros with the password Support. Sign on as micros once.
16. Load PK Zip Directory with files within the folder on to C:\Program Files Directory
September 2006 – Micros Fidelio Australia Page 1 of 2
17. Go to Database Manager – Security Log section and click on the yellow folder next to “Security Log Backup Path”. Ensure the default is \Bin, then click on the green tick to save it.
18. Add Win Zip (if not there already) to C:\Program Files
19. Load VNC onto the server from the Res 4 Utilities CD.
20. From within Windows Explorer, click Tools – Folder Options – View and make all folders view in ‘Detail’ format.
21. Check the Screensaver and Background are suitable.
22. Install PC Anywhere on C:\Program Files and setup a caller called Micros in the properties.
23. Add Bitmaps and Scripts: ALSO to load them to C:\Program Files\Micros\Res\CAL
24. Add Shortcuts for Micros Control Panel, POS Configurator, Autosequences & Reports and Manager Procedures plus any other components that be in use such as Product Manament.
25. Open Managers Procedures once and add the Manager Procedures website to the trusted sites list if prompted.
26. Label the server with the Helpdesk Number and Login.
Done.
I wrote an executeable / MSI for the ASATCLEAN setup that will install the app, set registry, paths, folders etc. if you want it
ok, only RES5 (which hasnt been released yet) will work on Win7 & Server 2008. So, I run VMWare and run RES4 on XP, and bridge the connection to the local network. I have run hotels like this while rebuilding their servers.
Its easy, even the licence key is available to the VM shell when you plug it in!! Really
Are you familiar with VMWare Player or VMware at all? I use VMWare to build all the RES versions and take snapshots whereas VMware Player can play only 1 snapshot (the current one).
The key points are:
1. IIS, Dotnet1.1 & ASP are installed
2. C:\ for OS & Apps
3. D:\ for Data (say 10GB)
4. User temp VARS are set to the same as OS temp vars
5. Rename the server before installing Micros unless you have the correct setname application
Otherwise the Micros RES 3700 Version 4.0 Installation Procedure is:
1. Enter Bios Settings when starting up and check Hyper-Threading is disabled. If it was enabled, then run “Devcon” program also.
2. Ensure Internet Information Services (IIS) is installed – Add Remove Windows Components
3. Enter the correct IP Address is set in the server.
4. Ensure the Server Name is correct. After Micros is installed this may only be changed by using the “Set Name Utility” for Res 4.
5. Ensure Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1 has been loaded
6. Ensure Windows 2003 Service Pack 1 or Windows XP Service Pack 2 is loaded.
7. Ensure the Correct Date, Time & Time Zone are set on the server
8. Make Environmental Variables the same- TMP/TEMP should both be TEMP.
9. Install the Micros Res 4 Pre Requisite files (setup.exe in the Pre Req folder).
10. Install MICROS Res 4 (Load Micros as Administrator) to C:\Program Files.
Install the database to D:\Micros.
• At the “Select Features” page, tick all options.
• When prompted, install the standard Australian Res 4 Shell Database by choosing “Install Your Own Database”.
• If the Drive letter needs to be changed of the C or D Drive, do so through Control Panel – Administrative Tools – Computer Management – Disk Management.
11. Ensure the database will start. Then stop database and load any necessary Micros service packs.
12. Input Micros License Codes.
13. Install asat clean procedure:
• Place AsatClean file in Micros/Res/Pos/Scripts folder.
• Create a key in the registry under HKEY_Local_Machine_Software/Micros/3700 called AsatClean
• Within that key, create a string called ‘Path’ with the value of D:\Temp
• Create a System Environment Variable called ASTMP with the value of D:\Temp
• Create a folder under the D Drive called Temp and ensure it is shared.
14. Place FilemainV4.bat file in Micros/Res/Pos/Scripts folder
15. Create necessary user:
• Create the user through Control Panel – Admin Tools – Computer Management – Local Users & Groups
• Create a user called Micros with the password Support. Sign on as micros once.
16. Load PK Zip Directory with files within the folder on to C:\Program Files Directory
September 2006 – Micros Fidelio Australia Page 1 of 2
17. Go to Database Manager – Security Log section and click on the yellow folder next to “Security Log Backup Path”. Ensure the default is \Bin, then click on the green tick to save it.
18. Add Win Zip (if not there already) to C:\Program Files
19. Load VNC onto the server from the Res 4 Utilities CD.
20. From within Windows Explorer, click Tools – Folder Options – View and make all folders view in ‘Detail’ format.
21. Check the Screensaver and Background are suitable.
22. Install PC Anywhere on C:\Program Files and setup a caller called Micros in the properties.
23. Add Bitmaps and Scripts: ALSO to load them to C:\Program Files\Micros\Res\CAL
24. Add Shortcuts for Micros Control Panel, POS Configurator, Autosequences & Reports and Manager Procedures plus any other components that be in use such as Product Manament.
25. Open Managers Procedures once and add the Manager Procedures website to the trusted sites list if prompted.
26. Label the server with the Helpdesk Number and Login.
Done.
I wrote an executeable / MSI for the ASATCLEAN setup that will install the app, set registry, paths, folders etc. if you want it
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Hi,
I read you had discs and thought you wanted to set up a server. Well thats a little different then. On the server configure it as a 32 bit client (the VM instance) with a fixed IP & name as usual, and then copy the WIN32CAL client onto the VM instance. Run CAL and select the server etc as usual. So you only need the CD to setup a server.
Cal will download the apps as expected, a consideration is if you want the cursor to show in ops. Otherwise its a standard 32 bit client.
CAL stands for CLient Application Loader and connects to the server, server dispatches the applications to the client based on configuration on the server.
You need to also have a licence for the client, these are handled in LICMANAGER, go to clients and see that wach WS has a licence number for it. THese must match up with the client licence number on the Workstation Tab in configurator.If you are changing an existing client to make it a 32 bit client, in the Network Network Node tab set it to Workstation (not Workstation 4)
THe CAL client is not on the CD. It is only held by installers. Heres one for Win32
I read you had discs and thought you wanted to set up a server. Well thats a little different then. On the server configure it as a 32 bit client (the VM instance) with a fixed IP & name as usual, and then copy the WIN32CAL client onto the VM instance. Run CAL and select the server etc as usual. So you only need the CD to setup a server.
Cal will download the apps as expected, a consideration is if you want the cursor to show in ops. Otherwise its a standard 32 bit client.
CAL stands for CLient Application Loader and connects to the server, server dispatches the applications to the client based on configuration on the server.
You need to also have a licence for the client, these are handled in LICMANAGER, go to clients and see that wach WS has a licence number for it. THese must match up with the client licence number on the Workstation Tab in configurator.If you are changing an existing client to make it a 32 bit client, in the Network Network Node tab set it to Workstation (not Workstation 4)
THe CAL client is not on the CD. It is only held by installers. Heres one for Win32
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Hi,
No, the only dongle (Rainbow Licence Key) goes into the server. The licence codes are entered by the installer during setup. Micros handles licencing through levels called Foundations, based on the number of clients the site will have. Each level code is different and unique, encrypted and based on the Rainbow key, and then each client is licenced individually also. Then each client must be licenced in Licmanager also, so if you have 3 clients each one will be coded in Licmanager.
If the client is unlicenced, when the Ops connect to the server, sees its not licenced, then ops simply stop. Are you a Micros customer or an "underground" customer? They refuse to support systems they have not sold getting a new code issued would be near impossible. As a precaution you should take a note of all the licence codes and keep it safe for this very reason.
Steve
No, the only dongle (Rainbow Licence Key) goes into the server. The licence codes are entered by the installer during setup. Micros handles licencing through levels called Foundations, based on the number of clients the site will have. Each level code is different and unique, encrypted and based on the Rainbow key, and then each client is licenced individually also. Then each client must be licenced in Licmanager also, so if you have 3 clients each one will be coded in Licmanager.
If the client is unlicenced, when the Ops connect to the server, sees its not licenced, then ops simply stop. Are you a Micros customer or an "underground" customer? They refuse to support systems they have not sold getting a new code issued would be near impossible. As a precaution you should take a note of all the licence codes and keep it safe for this very reason.
Steve
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Yes, I am a licensed customer however if I wanted to save on costs I could just buy another licence but if I get another licence would I have a cost of getting another dongle? Or would the existing dongle recognize the new licence? It's a safenet dongle.
Hi,
I believe the licences you pay for are the Foundation ones (i.e. moving from 2 to Unlimited) So all you need is a client licence code.Have you run Licmanager? Run it and it will answer your questions. The client licence (for the workstation) is usually free as long as they also sell 1 hr for someone to dial in and add the code.
You will have to run Licmanager, look and see the Foundation Level you are on, and then count the number of clients.
I believe the licences you pay for are the Foundation ones (i.e. moving from 2 to Unlimited) So all you need is a client licence code.Have you run Licmanager? Run it and it will answer your questions. The client licence (for the workstation) is usually free as long as they also sell 1 hr for someone to dial in and add the code.
You will have to run Licmanager, look and see the Foundation Level you are on, and then count the number of clients.
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