Connect External lines to Hipath 4k v1

[RonyKassam]

Hello ,
I have Siemens Hipath 4000 v1 with the following modules:
1- TMOM2 Q2214X100 qty=1
2- SLMA24 Q2246X qty=54
3- TM2LP Q2159X160 qty=12
4- SLMO Q2168X qty=4
5- LTUCX Q2166X qty=5
6- SIUX2 Q2187X qty=3
7- DIUN2 Q2196X qty=2
8- HUBC Q2143X qty=1
9- QDCL Q2113X100 qty=2
10-SICOE Q2234X100 qty=2
11-MTSCG Q2224X1 qty=2
12-DPC5 Q2270X100 qty=3

For Test purpose, How can I connect two external lines (from PSTN) to Hipath? which module? what are the commands needed to use the external lines from any internal line?

For main purpose, I need 100 external lines, I have prepared Fiber cable from the CO to Hipath, can I connect the fiber directly to Hipath? if not, how can I prepare 100 external lines? what are the commands needed?

I hope your response
Thanks

 

[sbcsu]

Hi
Why 100 ?
Normally you would connect up 30 at a time from one system to another.
Are these going to be external connections to a carrier or are they connections to another HiPath or even another system.
When you say lines I presume you mean channels of an ISDN circuit or an IP circuit rather than a copper pair ?

 

[sbcsu]

Do you have any training on the HiPath ?
Do you have any access to other sites or person who might help locally ?
It is a lot to do to add in trunks and routing on a system you do not seem to be familiar with.

 

[RonyKassam]

Hello sbcsu,
Actually I don't familiar with hipath, I have worked Samsung and Panasonic pbx. And there is no one can help locally, because of the risk in my country.

I have now two copper pair from the carrier to hipath, which module do I have to connect the two copper pair? what are the commands needed?

I have fiber cable from the carrier to hipath, which module do I have to connect the cable? what are the commands needed?

I hope your help please.

 

[sbcsu]

Hi Rony,
No Problem.
If you have 2 copper pairs then I presume they are analogue ?
Can you put an analogue phone (Plain Old Telephone) on one of those lines at a time and see do you get dial tone ?
Or maybe they have provided you with a 2MB circuit - did they give you a modem/box as well

With the fibre it will depend again on what the carrier are giving you. If it is a 2MB circuit then you can setup a trunk for that.

Do you know what is coming in on the fibre - is it data or a voice circuit
Thanks

 

[RonyKassam]

Dear sbcsu,
thanks very much for your reply.

Yes, they are analog, I have a tone when I connect analog phone.

About the fiber, it is 2MB circuit, I don't know if it is data or voice. which is more suitable, data or voice, taking in consideration my Hipath modules and requirement of 100 numbers assigned from the carrier?

 

[RonyKassam]

Dear sbcsu,
I know that my questions need a lot of explanations, so I need only the connecting of the two copper pairs, which modules? commands?
I wish your help.
Thanks

 

[sbcsu]

Hi Rony
Connect the analogue pairs to a TM2LP card (maximum 8 analogue lines on that card)
You will need an Fibre Adaptor (small black coloured plastic unit)
This will screw on to the DIUN2 card.
If you do not have these adaptors then you need the carrier to convert the fibre to either RJ45 or Co-Ax terminations.
(120 Ohm or 75 Ohm connections)

When the analogue lines are connected up you will need to setup some routing.
The following assumes that there is no programming already on the system.

ADD-BUEND:1,ANALOGUES,2;
ADD-COP:1,DTMF&RLSB&RLSA&NTON&DTM1,TA,TA;
CHANGE-COP:1,COPADD,,,,ANMOSIG,"COP FOR NON DIT ANALOGUE TRUNKS";
ADD-COT:1,RCL&XFER&CHRT&CEOC&CEBC&CPS6&RCLS&BSHT&CECO&ICZL&ICZO&CCTN&CTLS&NTON;
CHANGE-COT:1,COTADD,,ANMOSIG,"COT FOR NON DIT ANALOGUE TRUNKS";
ADD-TACSU:,,1,1,0,0,31,31,31,,1,0,"TEL NUMBER",253,999,0,1,EMPTY,0,NONE,NONE,1,EC&G711&G729OPT,"INFORMATION HERE ABOUT LINES ",0,GDTR,0,,Y,TC,ANMOSIG,0,0,0,1,1,1,0,MOSIG-DTMF,0-0,0;
ADD-RICHT:LRTENEW,1,ALL,"CARRIER NAME",1,999,,NO,FIX,,,PP80,,,253,,YES,NO,,999,NEUTRAL,NO,NO,NO,NO,NO,NO,NO;
ADD-LODR:1,,,,ECHO,3;
ADD-LODR:1,,,,ECHO,4;
ADD-LODR:1,,,,END;
ADD-LODR:1,,,"ODR FOR CALLS ON ANALOGUE LINES";
ADD-LDAT:1,ALL,1,,1,1,64,,1,EMPTY,WCHREG&NOTRANS,999,4,,,,,,,,,,,,;

Then you have to ADD-LDPLN;

 

[RonyKassam]

Dear sbcsu,
thanks for your help,
I wrote the commands, but I have changed two things:

ADD-TACSU:,,1,1,0,0,20,20,20,,1,0,"TEL NUMBER",253,999,0,1,EMPTY,0,NONE,NONE,1,EC&G711&G729OPT,"INFORMATION HERE ABOUT LINES ",0,GDTR,0,,Y,TC,ANMOSIG,0,0,0,1,1,1,1,0,MOSIG-DTMF,0-0,0;

replace "31" by "20" because I don't have 31 in my COS (show the display-COSSU below)
Add 1 for CDRINT so the ",1,1,1,0,MOSIG-DTMF" ",1,1,1,1,0,MOSIG-DTMF"

ADD-LDPLN:0-Z,0&1&2&3&4&5&6&7&8&9&10&11&12&13&14&15,1,,1,,,,N;

when I dialed "0" using analog phone, Nothing happened (No Tone).
I hope to check the commands above and the displays below, and tell me if there is any wrong?

I wish your help.
Thanks in advance.

################################################################
################################################################

DISPLAY-BUEND:,L;
H500: AMO BUEND STARTED

+------------------------------- FORMAT = L -----------------------------------+
| TGRP NUMBER : 1 TGRP NAME : ANALOGUES MAXIMUM NO. : 2 |
| CHARCON : NEUTRAL |
| SUBGROUP NO.: 4 DEVICE TYPE : ANMOSIG TRACENO : 0 |
| RESERVED : N SEARCH MODE : CIRCULAR ACD THRESHOLD : * |
| NUMBER OF ASSOCIATED ROUTES : 1 PRIORITY : 1 |
| TDDRFLAG : ON TDDRTHRESHOLD: 0 SOURCEGROUPIDX : 1 |
| GDTRRULE : 0 ACDPMGRP : 0 |
| THE FOLLOWING TRUNKS (LTG-LTU-SLOT-CCT) HAVE BEEN ALLOCATED: |
+------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| 1- 1- 61-0 | | | | |
+------------------------------------------------------------------------------+

################################################################
################################################################
DISPLAY-TACSU;
H500: AMO TACSU STARTED
ANALOG TRUNKS (FORMAT=L)
PEN | 1-1-61-0 | |
--------|--------------------------------|--------------------------------|
DEVTYPE | TC | |
DEV | ANMOSIG | |
COTNO | 1 | |
COPNO | 1 | |
DPLN | 0 | |
ITR | 0 | |
TGRP | 1 | |
COFIDX | 0 | |
CCT | TEL NUMBER | |
DESTNO | 253 | |
INS | Y | |
COS | 20 | |
LCOSV | 20 | |
LCOSD | 20 | |
INIGHT | | |
NNO | 999 | |
ALARMNO | 0 | |
CARRIER | 1 | |
ZONE | EMPTY | |
LIN | 0 | |
CIDDGTS | NONE | |
CBMATTR | NONE | |
SRCGRP | | |
CLASSMRK| EC G711 G729OPT | |
TCCID | INFORMATION HERE ABOUT LINES | |
DITIDX | 0 | |
TRTBL | GDTR | |
RULEIDX | 0 | |
ATNTYP | | |
MFCVAR | 0 | |
DGTPR | 0 | |
SUPPRESS| 0 | |
DGTCNT | 1 | |
TESTNO | 1 | |
CIRCIDX | 1 | |
CRDINT | 1 | |
CCTINFO | 0 | |
DIALTYPE| MOSIG-DTMF | |
DIALVAR | 0-0 | |
COEX | 0 | |
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

################################################################
################################################################

DISPLAY-COP;
H500: AMO COP STARTED

COP: 0 INFO:
DEVICE: INDEP SOURCE: DB
PARAMETER:
LINE WITH START-DIAL-SIGNAL SDL
MAKE/BREAK RATIO (60/40) BR64
START-DIALING-SIGNAL TIMER 1 (AMO DTIM2: PARAMETER STADIAL1) TIM1
START-DIALING-SIGNAL TIMER 3 (AMO DTIM2: STADIAL3) TIM3
INTERDIGIT PAUSE 2 (AMO DTIM2: IDGT2) IDP2

COP: 1 INFO: COP FOR NON DIT ANALOGUE TRUNKS
DEVICE: ANMOSIG SOURCE: DB
PARAMETER:
DUALTONE MULTIPLEFREQUENCY DTMF
BACKWARD RELEASE WHEN BUSY RLSB
BACKWARD RELEASE AFTER RELEASE RLSA
FIRST DIALTONE NOT A CONTINUOUS TONE NTON
MAKE/BREAK RATIO FOR DTMF 1 (PULSE=80MS,PAUSE=80MS) DTM1

CO TRUNK ACCESS:
TRUNK ACCESS TA

TOLL ACCESS:
TRUNK ACCESS TA

################################################################
################################################################

DISPLAY-COT:1;
H500: AMO COT STARTED

COT: 1 INFO: COT FOR NON DIT ANALOGUE TRUNKS
DEVICE: ANMOSIG SOURCE: DB
PARAMETER:
RECALL IF USER HANGS UP IN CONSULTATION CALL RCL
TRUNK CALL TRANSFER XFER
CHANGEOVER FROM HOLD TO RING TONE CHRT
CALL EXTEND ONLY FOR CALL STATE CEOC
CALL EXTEND FOR BUSY, RING OR CALL STATE CEBC
CPS 6 SET WITH CONNECTION TYPE "CO" CPS6
SUPRESSION OF RECALLS TO AC RCLS
DON'T RELEASE CALL TO BUSY HUNT GROUP BSHT
CALL EXTENSION BY AC TO BUSY STATION WITH CAMP-ON CECO
INCOMING CDR BY ZONE OR FROM LINE ICZL
INCOMING CDR ACTIVATE PER TRUNK ICZO
CCT-NUMBER (TACSU) IS USED AS A-NUMBER ON INCOMING SEIZURE CCTN
CONTROLLED TRUNK AND LINE SELECTION CTLS
NO TONE NTON

################################################################
################################################################

<DISPLAY-COSSU;
DISPLAY-COSSU;
H500: AMO COSSU STARTED
+------+-----------------+---------------+-----------------+
| COS | VOICE | FAX | DTE |
+------+-----------------+---------------+-----------------+
| 1 |> |
| | TA | NOCO | NOCO |
| | TNOTCR | NOTIE | NOTIE |
| 2 |> |
| | RTA1 | NOCO | NOCO |
| | TNOTCR | NOTIE | NOTIE |
| 13 |> |
| | NOTIE | NOCO | NOCO |
| | TA | NOTIE | NOTIE |
| 20 |> |
| | TA | NOCO | NOCO |
| | TNOTCR | NOTIE | NOTIE |
| | | | |
+------+-----------------+---------------+-----------------+

################################################################
################################################################

DISPLAY-LDAT;
H500: AMO LDAT STARTED
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| LROUTE = 1 LDPLN NAME = CARREIR NAME SERVICE = ALL |
| TYPE = LCR DNNO OF ROUTE = 999 |
| SERVICE INFO = |
+-------+-----+-----+-----+------+----------+------------+----------+------+
| | | | | | SCHEDULE | CARRIER | | |
| LRTEL | LVAL| TGRP| ODR| LAUTH| ABCDEFGH | ZONE | LATTR | LDSRT|
+-------+-----+-----+-----+------+----------+------------+----------+------+
| 1 | 1| 1| 1| 64 | ******** | 1 EMPTY | WCHREG | |
| | | | | NOTRANS | |
| | DNNO = 999 |
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------+


################################################################
################################################################

DIS-LDPLN:LDP,,,,,,,;
H500: AMO LDPLN STARTED
+--------------+-------------------------------------------------+
| | |
| LDPNO : 3 | LDP : 0-Z |
| | SPC : 22 |
| | FDSFIELD : 0 SDSFIELD : 0 PINDP : N |
+------+-------+-------------------------------------------------+
| DPLN | LROUTE| LAUTH |
|------+-------+-------------------------------------------------+
| 0 | 1 | 1 |
| 1 | 1 | 1 |
| 2 | 1 | 1 |
| 3 | 1 | 1 |
| 4 | 1 | 1 |
| 5 | 1 | 1 |
| 6 | 1 | 1 |
| 7 | 1 | 1 |
| 8 | 1 | 1 |
| 9 | 1 | 1 |
| 10 | 1 | 1 |
| 11 | 1 | 1 |
| 12 | 1 | 1 |
| 13 | 1 | 1 |
| 14 | 1 | 1 |
| 15 | 1 | 1 |
+--------------+-------------------------------------------------+


################################################################
################################################################

DIS-WABE:GEN,,,,;
H500: AMO WABE STARTED
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
| DIGIT INTERPRETATION VALID FOR ALL DIAL PLANS |
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
| | CALL PROGRESS STATE | DIGIT | RESERVED/CONVERT |
| CODE | 1 11111 11112 22| ANALYSIS | DNI/ADD-INFO |
| |0 12345 67890 12345 67890 12| RESULT | *=OWN NODE |
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
| 0 |. .**** ..*** **... ..... .*| CO | |
| 1 |. .**** ..*** **... ..... .*| SPDC1 | |
| 2000 - 3367 |. .**** ***** **... ..... .*| STN | |
| | | |DESTNO 0 |
| | | |DNNO 0- 0- 5*|
| 6 |. ..... *.... ..... ..... ..| ATNDDID | R |
| 70 |. .**** ***** **... ..... .*| TIE | R |
| 80 - 81 |. .**** ..*** **... ..... .*| CO | R |
| 8400 - 8431 |. .**** ***** **... ..... .*| STN | R |
| | | |DESTNO 0 |
| | | |DNNO 0- 0- 5*|
| 8500 - 8619 |. .**** ***** **... ..... .*| STN | |
| | | |DESTNO 0 |
| | | |DNNO 0- 0- 5*|
| 8620 |. .**** ***** **... ..... .*| STN | R |
| | | |DESTNO 0 |
| | | |DNNO 0- 0- 5*|
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
| DIGIT INTERPRETATION VALID FOR ALL DIAL PLANS |
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
| | CALL PROGRESS STATE | DIGIT | RESERVED/CONVERT |
| CODE | 1 11111 11112 22| ANALYSIS | DNI/ADD-INFO |
| |0 12345 67890 12345 67890 12| RESULT | *=OWN NODE |
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
| 90 - 91 |. .**** ..*** **... ..... .*| CO | R |
| 92 - 93 |. .**** ..*** **... ..... .*| CO | |
------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

[sbcsu]

NEVER USE COP or COT ZERO COT=0 COP=0
Remove them if you can - they will cause problems for your system.

Your COS is saying no access

Add in COS 31 as follows:

ADD-COSSU:,31,,,,,,,,"COS FOR LINKS AND ISND CIRCUITS ONLY";
CHANGE-COSSU:COS,31,TA&TNOTCR&COSXCD&TTT&UUS1IM&UUS3&CTLS,,,,,,,;
CHANGE-COSSU:COS,31,,TA&TNOTCR&MSN&MULTRA,,,,,,;
CHANGE-COSSU:COS,31,,,TA&TNOTCR&MSN&MULTRA&UUS1IM&UUS3,,,,,;

Delete 0 as 'CO'
CO is not used any more - yes I know it is for 'CO' but CO is not used on HiPath any more.
USE TIE ONLY

Delete the LDPLN
DEL-WABE:CD,0,,,CO;
ADD-WABE:0,,,TIE,N;

Also Display LODR 1 and show here

 

[sbcsu]

Looking again at above
Your LODR should be
echo,3;
echo,4;
end;

Your LDPLN should be 0-W-X-X

 

[RonyKassam]

Dear sbcsu,
Thanks for your reply, It is worked.
but I add the following:

1-Because I want Two Analog pairs:
ADD-TACSU:,,1,1,0,0,31,31,31,,1,0,"TEL NUMBER",253,999,0,1,EMPTY,0,NONE,NONE,1,EC&G711&G729OPT,"INFORMATION HERE ABOUT LINES ",0,GDTR,0,,Y,TC,ANMOSIG,0,0,0,1,1,1,1,0,MOSIG-DTMF,0-0,0;
ADD-TACSU:,,1,1,0,0,31,31,31,,1,0,"TEL NUMBER 2",253,999,0,1,EMPTY,0,NONE,NONE,1,EC&G711&G729OPT,"INFORMATION HERE ABOUT LINES ",0,GDTR,0,,Y,TC,ANMOSIG,0,0,0,1,1,1,1,0,MOSIG-DTMF,0-0,0;

2- When I press 5 I get the tone
ADD-WABE:5,,,TIE,N;

3- the 5-W-X-X is not worked (when I dial any number after 5, I wait for 10 seconds after that I get busy) .
So after that, I try 5-W-Z-T, I can dial any number after 5, but I have to wait 10 seconds to get the call, or press # to get the call immediatly.
ADD-LDPLN:5-W-Z-T,0&1&2&3&4&5&6&7&8&9&10&11&12&13&14&15,1,,1,,,,N;
How can I solve the waiting?

I hope your help.

 

[sbcsu]

So you have 0 for dialling out but now you want to use just 5 instead ?
Is that correct ?

 

[RonyKassam]

yes.
that's right.

 

[sbcsu]

ADD-WABE:5,,,TIE,N;

REG-LDPLN;

Add back in the LDPLN's that are working with 0 but with 5 in them instead of 0

Delete the LDPLN's with the 0

 

[RonyKassam]

##################################
WABE
##################################

when I choose 0 for TIE, I forget to save the configuration, so nothing saved.
what I added is in red color.

<DIS-WABE:GEN;
DIS-WABE:GEN;
H500: AMO WABE STARTED
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
| DIGIT INTERPRETATION VALID FOR ALL DIAL PLANS |
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
| | CALL PROGRESS STATE | DIGIT | RESERVED/CONVERT |
| CODE | 1 11111 11112 22| ANALYSIS | DNI/ADD-INFO |
| |0 12345 67890 12345 67890 12| RESULT | *=OWN NODE |
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
| 0 |. ..... *.... ..... ..... ..| ATNDDID | R |
| 0 |. .**** ..*** **... ..... .*| CO | R |
| 1 |. .**** ..*** **... ..... .*| SPDC1 | |
| 2000 - 3367 |. .**** ***** **... ..... .*| STN | |
| | | |DESTNO 0 |
| | | |DNNO 0- 0- 5*|
| 5 |. .**** ***** **... ..... .*| TIE | |
| 6 |. ....* ..*** **... ..... .*| ATND | R |
| 70 |. .**** ***** **... ..... .*| TIE | R |
| 80 - 81 |. .**** ..*** **... ..... .*| CO | R |
| 8400 - 8431 |. .**** ***** **... ..... .*| STN | R |
| | | |DESTNO 0 |
| | | |DNNO 0- 0- 5*|
| 8500 |. ..... *.... ..... ..... ..| ATNDDID | R |
| 8501 - 8619 |. .**** ***** **... ..... .*| STN | |
| | | |DESTNO 0 |
| | | |DNNO 0- 0- 5*|
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
| DIGIT INTERPRETATION VALID FOR ALL DIAL PLANS |
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
| | CALL PROGRESS STATE | DIGIT | RESERVED/CONVERT |
| CODE | 1 11111 11112 22| ANALYSIS | DNI/ADD-INFO |
| |0 12345 67890 12345 67890 12| RESULT | *=OWN NODE |
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
| 8620 |. .**** ***** **... ..... .*| STN | R |
| | | |DESTNO 0 |
| | | |DNNO 0- 0- 5*|
| 90 - 91 |. .**** ..*** **... ..... .*| CO | R |
| 92 - 93 |. .**** ..*** **... ..... .*| CO | |
------------------------------------------------------------------------------

AMO-WABE -111 DIALLING PLANS, FEATURE ACCESS CODES
DISPLAY COMPLETED;

############################
LDPLN
############################
the 5-W-X-X is not worked (when I dial any number after 5, I wait for 10 seconds after that I get busy) .
So after that, I try 5-W-Z-T, I can dial any number after 5, but I have to wait 10 seconds to get the call, or press # to get the call immediatly.
ADD-LDPLN:5-W-Z-T,0&1&2&3&4&5&6&7&8&9&10&11&12&13&14&15,1,,1,,,,N;
How can I solve the waiting?

<REGENERATE-LDPLN:1&&3;
M40: APPLICABLE GROUP CONDITION: MAXIMUM OF 1 OUT OF 2 PARAMETERS
M28: LINKAGE TO INADMISSIBLE, ONLY & ALLOWED
LDPNO =
LDP =
REGENERATE-LDPLN:,;
H500: AMO LDPLN STARTED
ADD-LDPLN:5-W-Z-T,
,
1
,,
1,
,,,N;
ADD-LDPLN:92-X,
,
8
,,
1,
,,,N;
ADD-LDPLN:93-X,
,
8
,,
1,
,,,N;

 

[RonyKassam]

Dear sbcsu,
I studied and I still study the dicumentation to configure the system.
when I read the document below:

13.4 End-of-dialing with Outgoing Seizure
End-of-dialing Signal with '#'
1A End-of-dialing Procedure
End-of-dialing by Line Signal
End-of-dialing with First Metering Pulse
End-of-dialing signal, First Metering Pulse and Answer signal
The COP Parameter ANS and NOAN are used in combination: ANS NOAN Bemerkung.

Do you think the problem is the Carrier's compatibility
What I have to choose and how?

 

[sbcsu]

Sorry - can we just go back to where you had the 0 for a line working ?
Can you get that to work again.
If the 0 is working then it is just a case of adding in 5 as TIE
Then copy the 0-w-x-x in LDPLN to make it 5-w-x-x

 

[sbcsu]

Your LODR should be
echo,3;
echo,4;
end;

Your LDPLN should be 5-W-X-X

 

[RonyKassam]

OK, when working with 0, I did what you told me,
...
ADD-WABE:0,,,TIE,N;
Your LDPLN should be 0-W-X-X
After that I press 0, I get the tone, but when dial any outside number (440900 for example), I wait for 10 seconds after that I get busy.

After reading the documentation, I suppose to put 0-W-Z-T, what happen is:
press 0, I get the tone, when I dial any outside number, I wait for 10 second after that I get the CALL,
Also
press 0, I get the tone, when I dial any outside number, and press #, I get the call immediately.

the electricity is not stable. so when the hipath restart, all the configuration removed, because I forgot to save it.
after that I repeated the configuration with 5 instead of 0, and I get the same result.

<DISPLAY-LODR;
DISPLAY-LODR;
H500: AMO LODR STARTED
+-------------------------------------------------------+
| ODR POSITION CMD PARAMETER |
+--------+----------------------------------------------+
| 1 | 1 ECHO 3 |
| | 2 ECHO 4 |
| | 3 END |
+--------+----------------------------------------------+
|INFO:ODR FOR CALLS ON ANALOGUE LINES |
+-------------------------------------------------------+