color management/printing problem

[ozzicc]

I prepare pdfx1a files for my clients ads and make proofs on my hp desingjet 5000 ps printer. I am using In Design CS, I first print the native ID file before I print the pdfx1a file. The problem I am having is that in the print window/color management, I select- "document" for my source and my printers profile for the destination and when I print my color is coming out too vibrant. I can take the same file in Illustrator CS and print it and it prints fine. I have third party software to color manage my images and logos, etc. in Quark and can't find anything similar for In Design. I'm using an Adobe ps3 internal rip to my 5000. I have tried to embed, flatten, convert, assign, you name it and nothing works. What kills me is that it's perfectly fine in Illustrator which should be the same print engine? or not? Can anyone shed some light on this I have some large catalog projects coming up and I need to get this resolved.
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[AdobeTim]

How do your color management settings in Illustrator, Acrobat and InDesign compare?

 

[ozzicc]

They all manage for print differently. I dont even try out of Acrobat, Illustrator the source in typically " same as source and the destination is my printers paper profile that I have created using a third party profile, In Design give you the option for doccument or proof and the desination of my printers profile but it doesn't work. I've tried flattening, embedding images, converting and assigning profiles but nothing works. I did find a way to produce an acceptable proof out of In Design by firsst making my pdfx1a file then save that to An Illustrator eps file and then print that out of Illustrator. It's a pain but it works until I can decide on a rip.

 

[MattPXL]

I think I'm having a similar problem with InDesign.cs. I'm working on a newsletter with about 10 black and white images in it. When I send the newsletter to my color printer (HP ColorJet 4500) all the black and white images come out with an olive green tint.

The only color i'm using is pantone 557 (olive green). Somehow the black and white images are picking up this tint.

The images are defeintly greyscale, and when i prent samples from my file browser they will print in B&W. I have also re-intalled InDesign and update my printer drivers, among other things.

As of now, i'm totally stumped...

 

[ozzicc]

Try saving the file as an eps open in illustrator cs with color management on and in the print window where color management is available select your paper profile as your destination. the CM in in design does not work with eps files and in general is not good.

 

[MrBafner]

I have found also that InDesign CS 3.01 eps are really bad, the quality is shocking.

I think it has something to do with the resolution of print... but can't find the setting to change the resolution.

You set to HIGHEST resolution and it only prints 72dpi
You set to Maximum resolution and it only prints 72dpi

Same with JPEG

and printing to distiller from ID3 is not real good either.

 

[jimoblak]

I'm shocked myself. MrBafner, I would modify your statement to say that you cannot create good quality EPS or JPGs; not that InDesign CS 3.0.1 eps are really bad. There is no problem on other user's computers. I'm not sure how your statement applies to color management.

You are confusing the settings that you call 'Highest' and 'Maximum' resolution. These options are for JPG image quality based on the level of compression, not resolution. The manual clearly explains this issue. There is no setting like what you describe for EPS export. You might be confused by the transparency flattener which has nothing to do with general resolution.

Would you be a Quark vendor?

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